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Petition - where can I sign it? - 29/7/06 I've looked at the Portwell Bar a couple of times recently to try to find the entrance as I really wish to sign the petition about the 15 Minute Club closure. Is it the door to the right of the Crown driveway and if so, when is it open so I can sign the petition? I also thought that the suggestion that the petition could be signed on-line was great - but I suppose that this website has to remain impartial Name supplied Ed: It is the door to the right - down some steps. I'm sure it's open in the evenings. Perhaps lunch times vary depending on the day of the week. Signing online is too techy for us!!
15 minute club- 28/7/06 Can I just say that I am very grateful to Cllr Steve Leniec for being the only Councillor so far willing to risk the wrath of Faringdon and the Town Council by posting his comments on the site. The points he makes are on the most part extremely valid. I say on the most part because I am the unnamed poster who he, rather patronisingly, states 'obviously has no working knowledge of how we operate in Faringdon Council'. Trust me Cllr Leniec, I actually have a considerable working knowledge of how you operate in the Town Council - I have lived in Faringdon for a long time and have had (and continue to have) many dealings with the Town Council in various different guises. I have also attended several Council Meetings as a volunteer in a number of different community sectors and, like most of the councillors in the town, I have a vested interest in social and economic development of Faringdon. I would like to point out that our town councillors are all volunteers and the fact that they are prepared to put time and energy into their community is commendable and should not be undervalued. However, that said, it is very frustrating as a resident of Faringdon to see decisions, such as the closure of the 15 minute club, taken without adequate public consultation. Cllr Leniec states that agendas and minutes are correctly published prior to meetings and I have absolutely no doubt that the Town Clerk and her deputy ensure that this happens - my apologies if I implied that this was not the case. I will say though that the level of publication is clearly the very bare minimum required to keep matters within the law and this is surely unacceptable for the year 2006? A huge majority of Faringdon residents work and as a result must find it very hard to access Town Council offices, only open weekday mornings, or the public library. I can only trust that the notice board is kept up to date as I rarely get the chance to see it - it is hardly a prominent, noticeable feature in the town centre. In the case of the 15 minute club the closure was not on the agenda and as a result the decision to close was simply not legal. The chair of the meeting should have ensured that the agenda was adhered to but on this occasion didn't. Human error is entirely excusable - it would just be nice if those involved would be brave enough simply to admit their mistake and issue an apology for the upset caused. This would surely alleviate so much bad feeling?! I am really pleased that a meeting has been arranged for 8th August where the proposal can be properly discussed with representations from both sides of the argument. I only hope that the complainants are also given a fair hearing as they have as much right as anyone else to their views regardless of whether the majority agree with them or not. Faringdon Town Council and the local community have the same interests at heart and need to pull together if the town is to stand any chance of progressing. If the community were adequately informed and consulted every step of the way we would not end up with the kind of rift developing that has here, and very much more could be achieved. Cllr Leniec made reference in his posting to the Willes Close Skate Park proposal and I quote how 'it is an example of councillors investing considerable time and energy over more than a year only to be denied by a possible challenge by a few residents - sound familiar?' I think this is very disrespectful to those residents both in Willes Close and elsewhere, who had genuine concerns over the viability of the proposal, and illustrates once again that far from being a partnership with the community the relationship between Town Council and local people is strained to say the least. The Willes Close issue it is actually a prime example of the Town Council having a great intention but not listening to and respecting the views of local residents, and actually putting time and energy into a project that was simply not viable. As a result a few volunteers with support from the Town Council are still having to fight hard to get a Skate Park. It is wholly unfair for Cllr Leniec to blame this on local residents - the Town Council has to take responsibilty too. I would like to urge Faringdon Town Council to please drag themselves into 2006 and get the website regularly up-dated. Advertise Council Meetings in other establishments in town, make use of local newsletters and other publications. Please ensure that consultation does actually involve everybody and lets not have this kind of scenario developing again. My apologies for the long posting and thanks to anyone who actually bothered to take the time to read it! Name supplied
15 minute club - support from Barcelona - 27/07/06 Hello, my name is Jemma, you may all know me as Dee and Martins daughter, and I worked at the Portwell Bar. I live in Barcelona now, (bad news travels fast huh!) and even though I am not in Faringdon to enjoy the benefits of the 15 minute club anymore, I am absolutely disgusted that the council would even think about trying to stop this event. T he 15 minute club has done so much for the town, and is one of the main reasons I had made so many friends there. Its the only regular event that really brings everyone in the community together and showcases all the unbelieveable hidden talent that faringdon and surrounding areas have to offer. I cant be there to fight the good fight, but I say go for it, don't take this laying down. Residents of faringdon; stand up, unite, and take on the council and the two residents that want to spoil such a fantastic event in a great town. Faringdon wont be the same without the 15 minute club, and I dont need to be there to know that. Good luck everybody, I hope you get the results you want. And Mum, martin, if your reading this, dont let the b*****ds grind you down! if anyone can fix it, you can. Go 15 minute club and go Portwell bar!! Hello to any friends who might be reading this, I miss you all!! Love Jemma Lockwood
15 minute club - action - 28/7/06 OK - so we're all against this decision for a variety of reasons, and from what is being said, there is a chance of over-turning it. But we will all need to do something ourselves in order for this to happen. Voicing our opinions is a great start, but we do need to take action as well. If anyone knows of where we can sign a petition (is the Portwell Bar an obvious starting point? or what about this great website...?) - that would be a great start. It only takes 5 secs of our time to add our name, but shows a weight of support that cannot be ignored. As Cllr Leniec has suggested, why don't we make sure that we meet the Councillors attending the 15 minutes club on 6th August and let them know how much this means to Faringdon. If there's 15 minutes of public speaking time on 8th August - let's make sure that it is used. I'm not sure I fully understand about the possibiltiy of "asking previously notified questions" - does that mean sending something to the Council before 8th August? Has anyone got any thoughts as to how we can go about making sure that this decision is over-turned? Sarah Allen-Stevens
15 Minute Club : Petition - 28/7/06 In response to all the positive feedback received so far, I am please to announce that a petition is available for signing at the Portwell Bar. Please, everyone, come along and add your name to it. Our intention is to hand it over at the council meeting on the 8th August. The petition will also be available at the (possibly?) final 15 minute club on Sunday 6th August. Thanks Simon Holmes
15 Minute Club - 28/7/06 It always seems surprising to me that whenever someone (or two) develops a good idea, some one (or two) seem Hell-bent on stopping it. So let us consider the mechanics of the 15 minute club. The two entrepreneurs applied to use a public building. The application was accepted (I assume) as it fell within the guidelines of acceptable usage. The venture proved a success. It proved a success for the majority of people in Faringdon (a small but never-the-less and hither-to democratic place). It proved a success for the youth of the town. It proved a success for some of the more wrinkly members of the town. It proved a success offering additional employment in town. It proved a success providing pleasure and enjoyment for hundreds of the town's people. However, the success of 15 minute club must have lead to huge cries of dis-satisfaction as I understand that the town council have vetoed use of the Town Hall for the purpose for which it is made available to the town's population on a Sunday night. I have since learned that the huge cries of dis-satisfaction are actually from one (or two) residents who appear not to have shouted loudly - but very quietly is some-one's ear. This would not seem to be a democratic way of processing a "dispute" and I wonder if it is a legal way of processing a dispute. I am president of the Chamber of Commerce. I and my colleagues spend much of our time supporting the businesses of the town to make Faringdon a more vibrant and wealthy place. The 15 minute club is one of Faringdon's success stories. I do not think it acceptable that three people out of several thousands should consider themselves authorised to prevent legal trade within town without reference to anyone other than themselves. I also run a business in Faringdon and live in Faringdon and as a mere member of the democratic populace would like each of the councillor's who voted to stop the 15 minute club to explain to me their understanding of that word - democratic. Nick Elwell
Shocked about the closure of 15 minute club - 27/7/06 On behalf of my band, Surface Noise (four 14 year old kids from Faringdon), I would like to say we are shocked about the closure of the 15 minute club. How many people visit the 15 minute club? definitely more than 2!! The club is an excellent place for bands to start and to improve their performing skills. We are very disappointed. Jim Duffen (Surface Noise)
Opposed to the closure of the 15 minute club - 27/7/06 I would just like to add my voice to all the others opposed to the closure of the 15 Minute Club. It has been fantastic for the town. Its closure would be an unbelievably short-sighted move and a terrible loss. David Janata
Please don't close the 15 minute club - 27/7/06 hi i feel that stopping the 15min.. should'nt be allowed to happen because not only does it keep youths off the street but at the same time its giving young bands of faringdon well know and boosed their confidence!!!!!!! if you do end up closing the 15 min club then PLEASE replace it with somthing like it 4 young and old people to have fun!!!! from William Luce (drummer for SURFACE NOISE)
15 Minute club - 27/7/06 Thank you to those who have responded positively to my post, can I assure you that many of my fellow councillors share my concerns. It would be impossible for me to respond to all the points and critisms posted on this site in recent days, however I will reply in general and update you on the current situation. I find it very frustrating that one decision taken by three councillors on one evening has been taken as the normal operating mode of council. The un named poster who criticised council procedures obviously has no working knowledge of how we operate in Faringdon.Council meetings and committees are always correctly called and advertised.I accept that our web site is poor, but a schedule of meetings is posted together with agendas on the council notice board. Council and committees always provide a slot on the agenda for public speaking and questions from the public. We also hold Town meetings to discuss the annual precept and an annual town meeting as a report on the past year. Minutes of all council and committee meetings are avaliable for inspection at the council offices and in the library. Councillors often find that the decision making proccess of local government is frustratingly slow with frequent checks and balances to ensure that public money (your money) is correctly spent and accounted for. Often we take a project and invest time and energy only to be frustrated at the final hurdle. The proposed skatepark on council land at Willes close was an example of councillors investing considerable time and energy over more than a year only to be denied by a possible challenge by a few residents - sound familiar? Now onto the update on the 15 Minute Club situation. There will be an extra ordinary meeting of Council called for the 8th August at which a motion under notice will be debated, seeking to overturn the decision of the Venues committee and reinstate the Sunday club meetings. As I have already stated meetings of Council are open to the public with the possibility of public speaking time. This is normally limited to 15 minutes in total shared between the speakers, it is also possible to ask previously notified questions.It is quite possible that on this occasion the Chair would allow time for speakers from either side of the debate in the interest of natural justice. The reason these are previously notified is to allow a full answer to be considered. This meeting would also be the best opportunity to hand over a petition with maximum effect. I am still trying to encourage as many councillors as possible to visit at least part of the club night on the 6th August. I look forward to meeting you there. Steve Leniec
15 Minute Club - 27/07/06 I am gob smacked at the news of the 15 minutes Club...!! This is not just an event for the good people of Faringdon, but I know of many folk from Wantage who regularly put the 15 minute club on their calenders. Why did the Chair of the Town Council committee not stick to the agenda? How was a vote able to have been passed when the agenda did not call for a vote? Were the protestors also council members? I would like to add my full weight of support to the 15 minute club and to the organisers and to the future of art events in Faringdon. Where's the nearest petition? I would also like to add a vote of thanks to Cllr Leniec for speaking out so frankly. And to Dee Lockwood for letting us know that these residents had obviously made up their minds no matter what steps Martin or David took. I echo someone else's comments - are these the same residents that stopped the monthly youth event in the Corn Exchange? I understand from the Town Council offices that an extraordinary meeting of the Venues committee is being considered for 8th August? Does anyone know anything further? Sarah Allen-Stevens
Town Council Regs/15 Minute Club - 26/07/06 In all fairness - Cllr Leniec did not suggest that the decision concerning the closure of the 15 minute club was illegal; but that he did not think that it should have been taken that evening. He did say that he was confident that the meeting was correctly called and advertised publicly (as they had always been) on the notice board outside the corn exchange. It is regrettable that the council website has not been updated regularly, but there is nothing in the regulations to say that information must be published on a website, merely that it should be published. Cllr Leniec explained why he did not usually reply to issues on this website - it will only confirm his fears if his words are misinterpreted. Why not address a coherent written question to the council, and SHOULD the proposal and its subsequent vote prove to have been contrary to statutary procedures, there are grounds for the decision to be overturned Or/and - simply ask for the closure to be reconsidered at the next appropriate meeting in the light of the considerable opposition by the town. After all, nothing is set in stone. Hilary T .
Uvillia - 15 minute club - 26/7/06 The 15 minute club was our first gig as the band Uvillia and it was a great opportunity to share our musical abillity to kids and adults alike. we feel that other young bands like us should have the chance to play in such a great atmosphere, with such a warm and enthusiastic audiance. They really made us as a band feel the vibes of success! We find the situation an absolute discrace that the council can bow down for just two conplaints from local residents living near by. The closure of the 15 minute club will enable other young bands such as our selfs to experience what we felt as a band. Over the years there has been a dramatic increase in young musical talent and you're taking the candy from the baby. We would also like point out the fact that the council got many complaints from the young people that had no where to hang out (Skateboard) and still nothing has been arranged. This seems stupid considering that only two people from our community managed to persuade the entire council to stop such an special venue. So much support and help went into organising the 15 miniute club its a shame to never be able to play again. IN CONCLUSION IS IT SO THAT THE COUNCIL LACKS SO MUCH BRAIN POWER THAT CLOSING THE 15 MINIUTE CLUB WILL BE LIKE STARTING A PUBLIC WAR. Yours sincerly Uvillia
Town Council regulations - 15 minute club - 26/7/06 For those wishing to know a little more about Town Council regulations the UK Government website states the following:- 'Every council must publish a 'forward work plan' listing when key decisions will be taken. They also publish meeting papers at least five working days beforehand. The minutes of the meeting summarising decisions made must also be published. You can attend most meetings of the council, although usually you will not be able to speak at them. While the full council (a meeting of all members of the council) is theoretically responsible for all the decisions made - in practice most of the work is delegated to smaller groups of councillors or council officers (paid employees). Councils have different ways of making decisions. Since 2000 most councils in England have had a small executive group that is responsible for the overall business of the council. Its decisions are subject to scrutiny by a different group of councillors meeting in overview and scrutiny panels. Most smaller councils have a committee structure dealing with separate aspects of the council's business, rather than having executive and scrutiny panels' I have had a look at Faringdon Town Council's website - according to the list of scheduled meetings for 2006/07 there have been Venues Committee meetings on 11th April 2006 and 14th July 2006. However the last agenda published (and its title actually states Corn Exchange and Social Committee but one has to assume they are the same!) is for the meeting on 11th April 2006 and the last minutes published are for 14th November 2005. Cllr Steve Leniec is clearly absolutely right to suggest that the decision made to close the 15 Minute Club is not legal (and thank you Cllr Leniec for giving us the hope that someone in Faringdon Town Council does understand local government procedures!) - in fact judging by the distinct lack of information on any recent committee meetings I actually wonder if any of the decisions made by the Town Council are actually legitimate? The Town Council states in its aims and objectives that it has five guiding principles:- - Communicate and Consult - Provide Civic Leadership and Civic Pride - Enhance Local Facilities - Provide Necessary Services - Foster Community Development Someone please tell me where Communicate and Consult came into the 15 minute club decision?! I would be more than happy to stand corrected if anyone can give me any other evidence but isn't it about time some changes were made and that basic principles of Local Government are followed in our town?! Name supplied
The closure of the 15 Minute Club - 26/7/06 ..................... is a disasterous move on the Committee's part. It has taken a valuable community driven event away from the town simply because of pressure from a particularly vocal minority who essentially highjacked the agenda of the meeting. They have ignored the wishes of those that regularly enjoy the event and thrown the democratic handbook out of the window. Let us not forget that if the 15.M.C. had been taking place in a private venue, then there would be absolutely NO useful or permissable evidence that would persuade a Licensing Committee that the premise should stop the event from running. Not only did i enjoy the event on an occasional basis, I was also extremely envious that such an event does not occur anywhere near where I live. The committee should be able to recognise that they rushed their decision and have the courage and humility to admit that they were wrong in the first...something that most politicians fail to be able to do Oli Wright
15 Minute Club - 26/7/06 I have now lived in Faringdon for over 8 years. When I moved in there was nothing going on, it was a place to sleep and leave in the morning. At weekends it was a place to get out off. Nothing went on, there was nothing to do, and in fact it was boring. Over the last few years things have started to change. We had the Faringdon Arts Festival this month which was a great success with over 800 people attending on the Friday night alone. Saturday and Sunday the stage was full of talented people from Faringdon. It was great to have the 15 minute club part of the Arts Festival giving other residents the opportunity to get on stage and show us what they can do. The young kids in Faringdon are always being told they are a waste of space and rude and obnoxious, yet every month they line up and take their turn on stage. What wonderful training they are getting or should I say were getting. With over 150 to 200 residents attending the 15 minute club on a Sunday evening surely demonstrate that this event is an important and enjoyable club within our town. So how on earth can two residents dictate that the 15 minute club should close? They moved into their houses with the full knowledge that an entertainment venue existed round the corner from them. (If they didn't know then they need to sue their surveyors). This venue has been around for many years and it is the only venue we have in Faringdon to host this type of event. Are these residents going to start to complain about the cars using Gloucester Street or Marlborough Street on a Sunday? Will they start to complain about the shoppers using Budgens until 9 pm. If these residents are that unhappy with the environment they live in then they should leave. Faringdon has worked too hard and the people of Faringdon are working to hard to let two people dictate what should and shouldn't go on in and around Faringdon. Will they want to stop Festive Faringdon next, after all Father Christmas comes in on Thomas the Tank Engine and that makes just as much noise, especially with all the kids getting over excited. Bah hum bug to you two residents - shame on you Name supplied
15 Minute Club-26/07/06 I have attended most of the 15-Minute Clubs, and find the closure very sad. It was a place where people could congregate safely, noboby got particularly drunk, there were no drugs, and no fights. These days that is rare indeed - even some wedding receptions can't boast that, but they won't be banned! The club is also one of the few venues in Faringdon that people on their own feel they can go to. Women, and men, on their own have an opportunity to get out once a month and enjoy live music in a safe environment where everyone is friendly. The range of different acts has always been interesting, and of very high quality. Where will all these talented people go now? How will the young kids get started, getting experience of playing in front of an appreciative audience? Faringdon is losing one of its best innovations for many years, and on the say-so of so few people I can count them on the fingers of one hand. The Council should explain why they voted for the closure, ignoring the wishes of the masses, as well as the Environmental Health Officer's findings. Joyce Wright
Budgens - 26-07-06 The reason we got Budgens and not something bigger and better is that not enough people live in Faringdon. As more dwellings are built, no doubt we shall get the Tesco, Sainsburys or whatever we lust after at the edge of town and then Budgens will decline and fall, like -er- the Roman Empire - alternatively become a giant charity hypermarket. Then TP will be swamped with complaints about the fact that out-of-town supermarkets are killing the centre of town. Eventually of course we will all shop online - Folly Hill will be dwarfed by a slab-like grey shed of a warehouse - we shall have everything delivered and complain that the roads are choccer with vans and there's nowhere for us, or them to park. But before that happens Budgens could be turned into a super duper state-of-the-art soundproofed performance space with its own dedicated car park, and the Corn Exchange, hopelessly outdated as a performance venue could become a trendy wine bar/eatery with a high level walkway from the 'theatre' Now there's a thought! name supplied
15 Minute Club-26/07/06 OK so the 15 minute club is under threat of iminant closure. What I need to know is what can I do about it? Are there petitions and where? Is there a named person I can send a protest letter to, who and where? Has anyone got the local press and radio/TV involved? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to voice an opinion and make a differance, but never having done so before, I haven't a clue where to start. There's no doubt the 15min club is worth saving.. lets make our protestations effective. name supplied
15 Minute Club-26/07/06 Good on you Cllr. Steve Leniec for putting your head above the parapet. However, whilst you say that the item was correctly called and advertised on the notice board as usual, you say that you understand that the item was actually to discuss quotes for sound proofing. Clearly, this mis-represented the item. If the Town Council has any decency and sense of fair play the item should be taken back to the next committee for proper consideration. Has anyone looked at the TC website recently, its absolute rubbish. It is not updated, and there is no mention of the committee. It certainly cannot be that hard to post committee agendas on the web site so that all can be informed of what the TC do and do not do. Devils advocate
15 Minute Club-26/07/06 15 Minute Club : Wow! As the one who started this whole debate, can I just say how overwhelmed I am to see such a fantastic show of public opinion. It shows that there are many people in the town who really do care what goes on. I have to say that every opinion I have about the whole situation has already been more than adequately represented by others, but I'd just like to say thanks to you all for having your say, and I hope you will all make these points to the town council as well. Lastly, but by absolutely no means least, thanks to Cllr Steve Leniac for taking the time to read our views and respond to them in this forum. I find it reassuring to know that we aren't just talking amongst ourselves, and I hope this whole stream of conversation will make a material difference to the town. PS. Thanks to Gene and Hilary for keeping up with the pace of all these postings ! Simon Holmes
Budgens - 26-07-06 Just a little clarification on an earlier issue which is obviously almost as controversial as the 15 Minute Club closure...I did (and still do!) support the view that Budgens is 'rubbish' but would like to clarify that this is not directed at the staff but at the chain itself! I'm not going into the why's and wherefore's now as it's not the issue at stake but my criticism lies with the 'big-wigs' (for want of a better word) in Budgens HQ, not those in Faringdon who are all just doing their jobs (often beyond the call of duty as you say Hil!) - just thought I'd say that before more people take umbrage! No offence was meant and my apologies if it was caused! The still frustrated resident!
15 Minute Club-26/07/06 This is really sad. We have now been living in Faringdon for the last 3 years and I also believe this is the best thing that has happened to this town since we have been living here. I can not believe that the complainers did not know that the Corn Exchange is a public venue from which they can expect noise. You can almost compare it to moving close to Heathrow Airport and after moving in, start to complain about the noise level. Complainers, you knew what the Corn Exchange is about before you moved in. For me the 15 minute club is the best thing that has happened to my and my family. My son is now a regular performer at the 15 minute club and before the 15 minute club he would not have dared to get onto a stage and perform. The same I can say about my wife, who is now also a regular performer. Please do not take the 15 minute club away.. Raoul van Eijndhoven
Budgens - 26-07-06 Budgens... Sainsburys online shopping......no need to enter any supermarket again. Marvellous! name supplied
15 Minute Club-26/07/06 How genuinely delighted I (and I expect many other townspeople) are that one of our councillors has responded publicly to the debate about the 15 minute club. It is truly frustrating to read/hear about a seemingly incomprehensible local authority decision and not be aware of the real circumstances surrounding it. I quote - "Whilst it is entirely correct for the committee to consider the views of objectors on issues,I do not believe that a decision to close the club should have been taken that evening. The fact that a proposal to close the club was not on the agenda denied both the founders, residents and pro-club councillors an opportunity to express their views" Could not the fact that the proposal to close the club was not actually on the agenda be a convenient/face saving way to invalidate the decision - at least until the organisers of the events have had a chance to represent themselves adequately? Could this be debatable? Cllr Leniec you must be congratulated for responding to this issue in the face of considerable hostility. The very fact that you have written (rather than spoken) ensures that what you say can not be taken down and misconstrued. FC
Budgens - 26-07-06 Budgens. OK, so it's not the "best" supermarket in the world (although the meat counter is terrific) but just consider what life is like elsewhere. Tesco, Sainsbury's, Waitrose, in Swindon, Cirencester, Wantage, Abingdon etc. Have you ever queued at any of those at Bank Holiday or Christmas? I rest my case. Steve Wright
15 Minutes - the reason why.-25/7/06 Why is Faringdon such a great place to live? I moved here 3 years ago to join my partner, now wife, in what I would consider to be the friendliest place I have ever lived. It has character, charm, lovely people and since the start of the Arts Festival and one of its spin offs, the 15 Minute Club, a vibrant music community. There are many of us who are involved in this event, from David and Martin, through to the bar staff, Rod the lights man, Tim for sound, some of us as just "roadies" to ensure it all works - plus, of course, the artists of all ages and persuasions - and I am one of them too. My musician friends from Swindon and Cirencester regularly attend as there is nothing like this in their own locality. It is simple - it is just a wonderful experience to see folks get up and "do their thing". Others have already put forward arguments in favour of retaining this event and I would add just one comment. Don't kill what is for many, an enjoyable, uplifting, entertaining and, for the artists of all ages and levels, a challenging night out ONCE A MONTH. Steve Wright - Roadie, gear provider and (when I can) musician
Budgens. - 25/7/06 OK, so it's not the "best" supermarket in the world (although the meat counter is terrific) but just consider what life is like elsewhere. Tesco, Sainsbury's, Waitrose, in Swindon, Cirencester, Wantage, Abingdon etc. Have you ever queued at any of those at Bank Holiday or Christmas? I rest my case. Steve Wright
15 Minute club closure.- 25/7/06 I am not normally moved to respond to postings on this site, as a councillor I have learned by long experience that anything one says can be taken down and misconstrued in evidence, however on this occasion against my better judgement... From the outset I should stress that I am not a member of the committee that took the decision to close the Sunday bookings of the 15 minute club after August. That said I am confident that the meeting was correctly called and advertised on the notice board as is normal. I understand that the agenda item on the 15 minute club concerned quotes for sound proofing and it was under this item that a proposal to close the club was debated and passed. It seems that the principal objectors were present and put pressure on the committee to take action. Whilst it is entirely correct for the committee to consider the views of objectors on issues,I do not believe that a decision to close the club should have been taken that evening. The fact that a proposal to close the club was not on the agenda denied both the founders, residents and pro-club councillors an opportunity to express their views. It is my opinion that this decision flies in the face of all that the town council has tried to do to encourage the regeneration of the town. Consider that we have given grants to support the MADD fest and the Arts week,that we resolved at our last meeting to work with the Youth Service to provide a room for youth activities, that we have agreed to lease the old theatre as a music workshop and then... we close the 15 minute club! Yes, it is right that we consider objections and seek to mitigate any nuisance; but in my view the remedy lay in the tight control and discipline of the club which Martin had introduced, in conjunction with the council, following initial complaints. When I visited the club in June the noise levels both inside and in Gloucester street seemed relatively unobtrusive for a music event. As has been reported, the Vale Environmental Health Officer felt that there was no statutory nuisance when he took readings. I have urged all of my fellow councillors to come to the club on the 6th August to experience it for themselves. I for one do not want to loose such a vibrant addition to the towns growing reputation as an arts venue and will fight within council for it to continue. Before you attack (lobby) individual councillors please remember that many could be sympathetic and if we get another vote we will need as many as possible to support the club. Cllr. Steve Leniec
Poor Budgens - 25/7/06 Oh, poor Budgens - please don't drag them into this - it's insulting to the local staff, who are kind and courteous to a fault. OK so it isn't Waitrose, or some other posh store with lots of PR and up-market lines - but where else would you find a supermarket whose manager would send out the van (in the absence of any police presence) to rescue the senior citizen who had taken a wrong turn and was weaving along the A420 in his invalid car? and whose staff would run up the road after you when you absent mindedly left your card in the machine? It isn't their fault when the supplies run out, or the van isn't there on time, or when the company doesn't pay enough for comfortable staffing levels, so don't be so hard on them. They do their best. Hil Taylor
15 minute club closure - 25/7/06 I was dismayed to read of the council's decison re the fifteen minute club, and wondered if the following might be of any use in getting the decision reversed. Firstly, Faringdon Town Council have never been noted for their strict adhesion to procedure - if they havent published their agenda for a public meeting (I believe committee meetings are still 'public') in reasonable time for you to see it - and I think there will be something statutary about that - then you have grounds for appeal. Likewise any other minor infringement of the rules. They are not obliged to consult you (organiser) personally, though, even though you are involved with the events, only to publish the agendas - and if their website is anything to go by - these are well out of date. Secondly, it's worth writing straight away to the council with a complaint about the way the decision was taken, ie not enough weight given to the advantages of continuing to hold the events, etc. - If you make a formal complaint they are obliged to deal with it in a timely manner, not more than about twelve weeks from them receiving it. (in writing) Thirdly - if you feel that they have not dealt with the matter satisfactorily, you can appeal to the local government ombudsman. Im not sure whether the matter would come within the remit of the ombudsman service if they've followed the rules properly, (and I bet they didnt) but it's worth rattling the cage if nothing else works. There's nothing that local councils dislike more than trouble from above, and unwelcome publicity/scrutiny. I havent checked all that out recently, but I think its still valid, you may know it anyway, so just trying to be helpful. I have found in the past that a combination of persistance and pedantry can work well. Trust me - I have employed both in the past and won by just wearing 'them' down. Alternatively - I have discovered some wonderful comfy earplugs, they work a treat - available from Boots, - just ask for 'soft' ear plugs. Buy a gross for the critics. name supplied
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15 Minute Club. - 25/7/06 Personally I think its time for some accountability. Given that the Town Council have effectively taken away an important facility from the residents of Faringdon, they should justify their position in the context of seemingly knowing better than the professionally appointed Environmental Health Officer. The Town Council owe it to the residents of Faringdon to explain the decision that they have taken. In fact they should morally answer the following questions: 1. Why were representatives of the 15 minute club not invited or notified of the meeting, but the objectors were. 2. What qualifications do the two councillors who voted for closure actually have which make them capable of reaching a negative conclusion against the advice of the Environmental health officer? 3. Why did a councillor abstain, what is the point of being a councillor if you have no balls to vote either for or against? If you have no views why be a councillor in the first place? So the gauntlet is laid down. However, I very much doubt that the above answers will be addressed by the mayor, chair or any of the councillors. If answers are given, they will at least have retained some respect. Then again pigs may fly. In as far as the residents who have complained are concerned, there should not be a witch hunt, they are entirely at liberty to object to the club as many times as they wish. And if their amenity is so affected to cause material environmental health issues then all this talk about the masses against the few is misplaced, health issues must prevail. However, this would not appear to be the case in these circumstances given the environmental health officers position. Its not a case about hundreds of supporters against only two objectors, its about whether there really is material harm generated. I personally would take the advice of a professional who knows about such things, and expect them to monitor the situation in the future. A medium term solution is to run for a position on the town Council and elect pro 15 minute supporters. I would do it myself, but I'm inclined to take an opposing view just to address any imbalance. Devil's Advocate
Outraged of Faringdon - 25/7/06 I am outraged but not in the least bit surprised to hear that once again some members of our Town Council have made a ridiculous undemocratic decision that has caused outcry in Faringdon and upset a huge number of the residents who they are supposed to represent. The Fifteen Minute Club has been a superb addition to Faringdon and has really helped to put our town on the map. For far too long Faringdon Town Council has been constituted of Town Councillors who have their own agendas and not the needs of Faringdon residents at heart (I know this is not true of all of them and do not wish to tar them all with the same brush, but decisions always seem to come down to the same old faces and I for one am sick of it!) Any new comer who stands for council seems to end up leaving because they get constantly voted out by the 'old-timers' who don't seem to know when it's time to move on. Unfortunately we have not had a democratic election of councillors in Faringdon for a very long time, as there are never more candidates than places. As a result we keep seeing the same faces over and over again. I whole-heartedly agree with Cllr Alan Hickmore's comments in July's edition of The Folly that we need to see enough candidates stand next year to enforce an election - only then will Faringdon residents be fairly and democratically represented. Please all of you who read Talking Points think seriously about standing, or plague anyone you know who might be interested in becoming a Town Councillor to stand, so that we can see some healthy changes made in Faringdon's governance! People are so quick to complain about the lack of social activities in the town for young and old alike, yet seemingly when motivated and enthusiastic individuals work hard to rectify this situation, they receive no support from the Town Council who's actual role in the Town is to help see it flourish not die a death. I daresay the two residents that complained constantly are the same residents who complained when Martin tried to organise a monthly Youth Club in the Corn Exchange and as a result prevented it from happening again. Might I suggest that these residents go and move to a field somewhere where they can complain until they are blue in the face about the lowing of the cows and birdsong in the mornings without anyone else suffering from their selfishness! Finally I would like to thank all of the organisers of the Fifteen Minute Club for working so hard to bring something really positive to the town! I look forward to seeing a copy of the petition so that I can sign it along with several hundred others. I would like to add that I have never actually been able to attend the club on a Sunday night but unlike the five people who's voices unfortunately have been heard I fully understand how important this event is to Faringdon and do not want to see it go! and yes Dee, I'll support you in your protestations about Budgens it is indeed rubbish!! When's the next TC meeting?!. A very frustrated resident! Name supplied
15 Minute Club....Well done Dee! - 25/7/06 You have just about summed up everything that the majority of people in Faringdon think about this disgustingly undemocratic decision to close down the 15 minute club. Considering the way the whole thing was processed, I question the degree of legality in this ruling? Perhaps someone of legal standing can advise. For those who don't know, I am David Reynolds' wife, but i am not taking sides on a personal level. I actually sometimes resent the amount of time he spends on all his "projects". However, I recognise the fantastic contribution he, Martin and others make to the Town. Faringdon needs events just like this. The town was dead when we first came here 7 years ago but now is fast becoming a buzzing, vibrant community. Thank goodness people such as the complainants, and councillors who can't possible have the best interests of the town at heart, are in the minority, else this town would never have dragged itself into the 21st century. I'll sign any petition going about this. Lets exercise a bit of people power! Trish Reynolds
Dear Residents of Faringdon - 25/7/06 I write on behalf of the Faringdon Area Project (FAP) at the closure of the 15 minute club. FAP has spent the last few years championing good and vibrant projects to ensure that our Market Towns is a vibrant and thriving community to live in. Over the last few years Faringdon has gained the reputation as being a town full of artistic talent. We are known for the Faringdon Arts Festival, the MADD May Fest and Festive Faringdon to name but a few. We are also known as the town that gives voice to our talented residents in Poetry, Music and Dance. FAP has worked long and hard with numerous volunteers putting in long hours to improve our community and ensure that we are a Market Town that moves towards a brighter future and not a sleepy town that ends up becoming a dormitory. It was this reason in 2002 that Faringdon conducted the Healthcheck and created the Action Plan that so many people have worked so hard on. The closure of the 15 minute club is in many ways taking a step back. This event started in the local Portwell Wine Bar and out grew the Portwell in a matter of months. The obvious location to move the 15 minute club to was the Corn Exchange a public facility that generates an income for the Town, provides a valuable service to the community in providing employment and an evening of entertainment that is enjoyed by families. This venue has been used for these purposes for over a 100 years. Whilst we understand that the noise of the 15 minutes club can become an annoyance, we can not stand by and let our only performance venue become eroded by a minority of people who do not understand the implications and the importance of this valuable venue to the future of Faringdon and our community. Julie Farmer Managing Coordinator Faringdon Area Project
Music in Faringdon - 25/7/06 Music is what Faringdon does best. Over the last two or so years Faringdon has been overwelmed by fantastic professional, semi professional, and amateur performances supplied by both the Madd Mob and the Festival organisers in Faringdon. Everything I have seen has been of the highest order, and I know what I am talking about as I have played in bands since 1972. My repetition of the word "Faringdon" is not a mistake, this has all happened in Faringdon, not Abingdon,Witney or any of the other towns in this area where everything seems to "happen". We have all moaned "nothing ever goes on in this dump" it was the main cry of young and old alike for many years, now we finally have something which seems to suit all ages and what happens, it gets banned, ye gods!!!, start a petition and get this stupidity stopped, present it to the five councillors, or whoever turns up, let them know its the majority that needs to be listened to for once, Faringdon does music best, don't let moanin g become better. Jim Horton
JUST TAKE 15 MINUTES...- 25/7/07 Forgive me Martin for you know not what I do! Your loud-mouthed Northerner can keep quiet no more. Deep breath! I am Martin Phillips's fiancé, because of this I almost did not post. I'm bound to defend anything he does aren't I? (..you should ask him that question!) In this case that fact is incidental, I love the 15 Minute Club. Nobody could possibly argue the popularity of the 15 Minute Club, or the fact that it has indeed put Faringdon on the map. This town has never felt so vibrant. Martin Phillips, David Reynolds and friends (Tim Cartwright, Rod Green and a host of passionate volunteers, too many to list, not to mention the supporters and musicians) have added to the music scene, and Faringdon is fast becoming the place to be. From the feedback we are receiving the feeling in the Town is very strong from young and old alike. Even the students of Faringdon Community College are up in arms. The 15 Minute Club will be a great loss to Faringdon. I have no hidden agenda, this is a blatant attempt to rally support from all those who support the 15 Minute Club and/or love Faringdon. (Yes, I will say that in the same sentence.) Martin's partner or not, I am furious! I have lived most of my life in big cities. Forgive me, but on my arrival I found Faringdon one of the most pleasant and friendly places on the planet, but a little ..dead. The biggest issue at that time was the apparently 'offensively large' lizard sign above the pet shop (WHAT?!!!) But enough people spoke up, and the sign stayed. Nobody wants Faringdon to be anything like a big city, but just to find the right balance. The 15 Minute Club was very much a step in the right direction. Unfortunately two residents complained, constantly. Environmental health were called in, but informed the council that they were satisfied with the noise levels. Then the two residents complained some more. In an attempt to try and please everyone, after a meeting with the council Martin and David agreed to have all the louder bands and musicians finish by 10.00pm, leaving the solo acts and those needing no PA to the end slots (which he and David Reynolds did). The two residents agreed, saying they did not wish to see the end of the 15 Minute Club, but just to find a satisfactory compromise. This was done. Then the two residents complained some more. Said residents then tried to rally support to stop the 15 Minute Club (???) but were met by opposition from their 'own neighbours'. Then the two residents complained some more. On the afternoon of the last 15 Minute Club, the two residents telephoned Martin and stated again that they did not wish to see the end of the 15 Minute Club, but just to find a satisfactory compromise. That evening the event finished half an hour earlier at 10.30pm. Then they complained some more. .It was then suggested that the 15 Minute Club finish at 9.00pm ..would there be any point! At another meeting, whereby Martin was asked to attend in his role as the 'bar franchisee' at the Corn Exchange, supplying the standard monthly report, and not as one of the organisers of the event receiving complaints, or the hirer of the hall, a surprise vote as to whether or not the 15 Minute Club should continue, was sprung on him. He had no forewarning, had not been given the opportunity to prepare a valid argument in support of the 15 Minute Club or any supporting facts, rally any speakers or supporters or even inform his 15 Minute Club partner David Reynolds. (As David rightly said, how did the two residents know when the organisers did not?) This vote was not even written into the agenda given to Martin for this committee meeting. He arrived, the two residents were given the floor, Martin wasn't given the opportunity to defend, and the vote was taken. End of the 15 Minute Club. (..pending soundproofing. Sure. Posts, moving and goal spring to mind. I would ask everyone to consider: As has been said, do five people (just two residents?!!!) have more say than the masses? Did anyone ask the masses? The two residents chose to live in these properties in full knowledge they were in close proximity to the town's main venue for events. Environmental health were satisfied with the noise levels. The 15 Minute Club is held for just one evening per month, not every weekend! Is this the opening of the floodgates for any individual in the town to whinge to the council and put a stop to anything that may provide enjoyment and entertainment to the majority, or perhaps have Faringdon recognised further afield than the signpost on the A420? Do all the members of the Town Council really hav e Faringdon's best interests at heart? Do the Town Council not need this extra revenue? Since the start of the 15 Minute juniors at 5.00pm, is there anything else to replace this for the youth of Faringdon ..a skate park perhaps?! Is there any other venue which gives both budding and experienced artists, musicians, poets, children and adults alike (from 10 to 84 so far) the opportunity to expose their talents and grow in confidence? Or for the folk of Faringdon and beyond to experience and enjoy this? Is this really going to encourage others to make efforts in providing anything in the direction of growth or entertainment in Faringdon? Does anyone really believe the Corn Exchange will be soundproofed before the next ice age? *Are we to be forced to take the 15 Minute Club out of Faringdon, defeating the whole object? If you feel passionate about the closure of the 15 Minute Club, if you want to continue enjoying or participating beyond the last scheduled event on 6th August, then you need to make yourself heard by the Town Council. I simply want to make sure that enough people are informed of what they are losing (and how unjustly), to enable them to speak up. (It's a shame our Town Council didn't think the same way.) On another note: I would like to complain that Budgens is a rubbish supermarket. I need just one other person to complain with me to the council so that we can have it closed down. Any volunteers? Dee Lockwood
Undemocratic demise of the Fifteen Minute club - 25/7/06 Copy of E-Mail sent to venues commitee Faringdon Town Council. Other supporters may wish to do likewise. I would like to express my objection and severe disappointment at Faringdon Town Council's decision to exclude the Fifteen Minute Club from the Corn Exchange. The action appears to have been made on a very small minority decision at a meeting which, to put it lightly, was not widely known about and hence prevented any representation by supporters of this very popular Monthly community event. The Fifteen Minute Club has grown out of the efforts of a small group of hard working enthusiastic people who have strived to provide this Town with an opportunity for it's wealth of Musicians and entertainers of all styles and ages to perform in front of an enthusiastic and supportive audience. It is a unique, often Family event which despite being licensed has never been the instigation of any trouble. The organisers and supporters of the Club are very much aware and sympathetic to the problem of noise nuisance caused to nearby residents and the distress that it can cause. I reside within yards of the venue and am familiar with the sound levels created at the FM Club and other more regular events. However I also have to appreciate that the Corn Exchange is a Music and entertainment venue and living nearby requires a degree of tolerance. The Council have a responsibility to protect residents from excessive noise nuisance and there has been 'talk' about the installation of sound proofing in the Corn Exchange, but on this occasion the Council appear to have taken an undemocratic and financially undemanding solution to the problem. Graham Fletcher
Town Council- and the 15 minute club - 25/7/06 I would respectfully request that the Town Council should revisit their Aims and Objectives, as published on their website: Mission statement Our Mission is to ensure Faringdon is a desirable and thriving place in which to live and work by facilitating and providing quality, sustainable and affordable services which accord with the community's needs and aspirations. Corporate objectives 1. To enable residents and visitors to enjoy high-quality social, recreational, environmental, educational, economic and cultural facilities within the town, and to seek the continuing improvement and development of these facilities in accordance with the desires expressed by the residents. 2. To encourage and promote the economic and commercial vitality of the town, including the hinterland agricultural and rural surrounding areas. 3. To protect and improve the high-quality environment of the town and promote sustainable development of the town and its economy to meet the needs of present residents and visitors without jeopardising the needs of future generations. 4. To preserve the ancient traditions and unique identity of this Market Town. 5. To work in partnership, or otherwise, with other statutory and voluntary bodies, groups, agencies and individuals to ensure an improving standard of services to meet the needs of residents of the town. 6. To represent the views and wishes of the citizens of Faringdon. 7. To help to create a socially inclusive and caring community which embraces all its residents, irrespective of age, culture, income, race or religion, and which seeks to develop their well-being, knowledge, understanding and mutual co-operation. Approach and Principles To achieve this, the Town Council has five guiding principles :- - Communicate and Consult - Provide Civic Leadership and Civic Pride - Enhance Local Facilities - Provide Necessary Services - Foster Community Development " They may wish to reflect on whether they are truly aiming to uphold these - or is this just spin? The closure of the 15 Minute Club surely flies in the face of their guiding principles, not forgetting the wishes of a significant number of Faringdon residents Anita van Eijndhoven
Fifteen Minute Club - 25/7/06 This is very sad news. Something that brings pleasure to so many being stopped by so few. I could understand complaints if it was every night until the early hours but we are talking about once a month and the plug is pulled at 11pm sharp. People buying houses in a town centre in close proximity to a venue such as the Corn Exchange know what they are getting before they move in. Residents surrounding the venue should turn up their TV's, move children to the rear of their properties and allow this important source of income for the town to continue. It's only once a month! I urge everyone who supports the Fifteen Minute Club to sign any petition but also to write to the council. Name supplied
15 minute club closed - can it be so? - 27/7/06 Can it really be so? The closure of the 15 minute club because of two people. Democracy? I don't think so. Were the views of the people of the town sought? Not mine. But lets not worry, at least we are getting another charity shop to go with two pet shops, antique shops, piano shops, gift shops.....etc, etc. Please think again. Let local politicians take ownership of letting Faringdon people enjoy an active social enviroment WITHIN Faringdon. Ray Hunt
About the Closure of the Fifteen Minute Club - 25/7/06 The Fifteen Minute Club is, in many ways, the best thing Faringdon does. Consider the many fine young bands that have begun playing at the Community College (eight of them were in competition against each other the other day). The only regular venue for their work outside school: the early evening alcohol-free-bar sessions at the Fifteen Minute Club. Thanks to those they have a clear route to progress along, from working with their music teacher, through playing to the public, and then on to, hopefully, recording. Then take the other end of the spectrum: Mervyn Penney, 84 years old, winner of prestigious folk music prizes, always welcome on the Fifteen stage, and a reflection of the vast diversity of that audience and talent. There's everyone from my wife Caroline, a stalwart of Churches Together, singing her country rock songs, to Abby, who always gets up to sing 'Streets of London' and is always loved, to Bobby Moore's Shorts, a rock band entirely trained in the atmosphere of friendly rivalry that the Club produces, now supporting any big band that plays in town. The Club makes musicians work harder, means that Faringdon has a vastly more active music scene than a town this size should have. And it's not just about music: anyone looking to nurture any sort of talent can get up on that stage. We've heard poetry, I've read from my novels. It's not just the fact that acts are already being attracted from as far afield as London. Through the internet, those who know about Faringdon in distant parts have started to know about it as a place where music is made and art is produced. There must have been a point in the history of, say, Nashville, when the population realised that music was what that town did. Did they also have, I wonder, a little committee somewhere, a handful of councillors who were cut off from knowing what was going on in their town and, if they did know, didn't care? It's not just about the wishes of two people overturning the happiness of an audience of many hundreds, it's about not letting them put a stop to art in this town. There's going to be a petition going round, it's going to be enormous, may I respectfully suggest that the best way to stand up against what's going on here is to sign it. Paul Cornell
15 minute club- lost for words- 24/7/06 I am lost for words that after August, there will be no more 15 Minute Club at the Corn Exchange. The club provides an opportunity for my whole family to have an evening of entertainment together, and to enjoy the talents of the many who take a slot. For many participants it is a chance to share something which they are deeply passionate about, and to have the chance to work creatively with others. Often, the outcome of spontaneous collaborations is extraordinary, and performers and spectators alike end the night on a high. The 15 Minute Club is a large part of why I tell people I love living in Faringdon. Why do the council seem determined to put a stop to this unique and valuable source of entertainment? I can't see how they intend to finance the soundproofing, when they are terminating a prime source of income. Perhaps the Council would be good enough to share their justification with the people they claim to represent? It seems obvious, but maybe those who crave silence so much should contemplate whether the town centre is really the place they ought to live? In the meantime, I would like to thank David Reynolds for the professional organisation and superb musicianship he provides at the Faringdon 15 Minute Club - those who attend certainly appreciate it. Anita van Eijndhoven
Poem winner - 24/7/06 Wow It's hard to type a message When I'm dancing on cloud nine - To think that one or two of you Should like my little rhyme. The competition proved diverting - I was feeling non to hot, When asked what chance of winning I confessed - well not a lot. But luck was on my side And so I think it about time I thanked those of you who voted For Rapunzel here On Line. Sarah Fuller
Closure of the 15minute club - 24/7/06 The closure of the 15 Minute Club is indeed a sad blow to the town, artisically, socially and econmically. The club which runs once a month on the first Sunday regularly attracts an enthusiastic audience of 200 and performers from as far as Swindon, Oxford and even London. The club also provides employment for local people and, of course, produces revenue for the use of a public venue that would otherwise be closed on a Sunday night. Presumably the complainants noticed that such a public venue was in close proximity to the homes of their choice in the centre of a busy market town when they moved there. However, their protestations clearly outweigh the views of the masses. I am told this is "democracy"; to me it smacks of everything but... I will also add that I am an organiser of the 15 Minute Club and I was not informed that this issue would be discussed at the venues meeting and consequently was not there to put forward an alternative view. Which, begs the question...how did the minority protestors know that the issue would be discussed when the organisers did not? The outcome may well have been the same. However, the process leading to summary execution in absentia is highly dubious! If anyone, including the protestors who have never even spoken to me, would like to make contact please do so on 0771 421 8825. David Reynolds
15 Minute Club Closure - 24/7/06 I don't belieeeve it ! What kind of lunatics are running our particular asylum. ? Even I wouldn't object to a bit of extra noise once a month. Victor Meldrew
15 Minute Club - 24/7/06 I understand that due to two complaints from nearby residents regarding sound levels, the monthly 15 minute club at the corn exchange can no longer take place after August, until the corn exchange can be adequately soundproofed (timescales for which are unclear). This decision was reached by the council in a vote, after representations from the two people concerned about the noise levels. Having attended the vast majority of the 15 minute clubs since its inception, I feel we are losing a valuable addition to the town's arts and music scene, which has been well attended by musicians and visitors alike. It seems in this case that the wishes of the minority have overruled the wishes of the masses. I would be very interested to hear other peoples opinions on this Simon Holmes Ed: This is very sad - the 15 minute club was really putting Faringdon on the map. How can something that happens only once a month be considered a noise intrusion! I've heard that it was the Venues Committee that took the decision - 6 councillors were there(possibly Cllrs Mrs M J Barker Mrs D England (Chairman)J England J C W Gillman A V Hickmore), 3 voted for closure, 2 wanted it to continue and 1 abstained. So this decison that so affects Faringdon has been made by 5 people!! I wonder how many local people would have said NO to it's closure - had they been asked Was anyone asked - other nearby residents?? Will a campaign help?
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid - 24/7/06 Just a quick note to thank that stupid, stupid, stupid woman driver who almost knocked me off my bike on Sunday (at about 5:45pm). No disrespect to women drivers, it would have been stupid, stupid, stupid man driver had it been a man. The extent of the stupidity is quite unbelievable, and had I not been so shook up I would have got the number plate and reported her to the police for dangerous driving. I was riding my bike south on Coxwell Road, to go to the play area in Great Coxwell. As I was approaching the traffic calming at the edge of town (next to what was called the Red House, but now painted yellow) a metallic blue Peugeot 307 decided to overtake me and as I was almost level with the narrowed area, she then realised that she couldn't make it and almost skidded into me. She then just drove off looking straight ahead to avoid any eye contact and didn't even check that we were ok. Yes I say we, I had one of my little girls (18 months) in a bike seat and the other on a trail rider attached to the back of my bike. They were clearly visible and I would have expected some additional caution to be given by a driver, over and above a normal and required level of caution. I didnt get the number plate as I was more concerened with the well being of my children. There were a couple of vehicles entering Faringdon at the time, if you happen to have got a number plate please advise. Anyone know a really stupid middle aged woman who was driving a metallic blue Peugeot 307 through Faringdon at about 5:45pm. If you are that woman, then with respect, you are very very stupid, inconsiderate and you could have caused a very nasty accident. Oh yes and thanks for stopping to check that we were all ok. Name Supplied
Anti-poo Poster - 22/07/06 Dear Mrs Oldtyre, (and other interested parties) Please feel free to download and print the posters, Which are A5 size, - two on one page, and place them where appropriate. Laminated versions are available from Mandy's Pet Supplies, London Street Personally I think they have more impact than the council ones. HT download poster
From Lois in Canada - 20/7/06 The worthy folk of Faringdon Appear to all be having fun. The joys and trials of life in town Have now achieved world-wide renown The Saunders net casts far afield As our edresses are revealed! The question springs to mind, of course Now that I've voted, which one was YOURS? Ed: Thankyou Lois
Ilegal parking - 19/7/06 Why is it that since the repainting of the yellow lines in Coxwell Street, the illegal parking there has got worse. And the Police Community "support" Officer ignores this. If you use the short cut, Skinners Alley into Ferndale Street you quite often can't see anything clearly because of illegal parking. The disabled bay in the Market Place is also rarely policed as well. I know Faringdon is only part time policed which considering the amount of poll tax we pay is disgraceful. I also lay the blame at lazy and inconsiderate drivers who should know better. Colin Eddy
Premiership Competition - 14/7/06 The World Cup competition resulted in resounding success, jovial camaraderie and guffaws all round, so by popular demand we're naturally starting a Premiership competition for the forthcoming season, again raising funds for Oakwood House in Faringdon Details of the competition and the distribution of prizes can be found at the Portwell Bar(too long to include here) £5 per entry (multiple entries are allowed). We need about 100 players to make it most worthwhile, so please fspread the word Martin Phillips
Arts Festival photos - 15/7/06 Great photos from Al Cane See them here
Canine excrement!! - 14/7/06 As a long standing resident of Faringdon, I feel I must put pen to paper to alert my fellow residents to the shocking levels of canine excrement in and around Faringdon's streets. Frankly the amount down London Street and Stanford road reaches biblical proportions at times. What kind of animal produces such amounts? What are their owners feeding them on, and why aren't they clearing it up? I thought it was illegal to allow your dog to foul the footpath but the Vale of White Horse clearly does not consider this to be the case, in fact appears to positively encourage faeces to be plastered all over the pavements in some kind of poo festival. There are some humorous stickers applied to some lamp-posts in the environs mentioned, indicating a £1000 fine but clearly this is a joke since it does not appear to be policed nor fines to be applied. I await enlightenment Mrs Trotty Oldtyre
Cat found - 14/7/06 Just to let you know we have found our cat, (Tigger) He had been involved in traffic accident, still very poorly but a least alive! Hope others whose cats are missing have some luck. Name supplied
Love Is In The Air....and Park !. -13/7/06 Apparently Hanna P loves Adam C !. Isn't that lovely ?!. Unfortunately, they chose to announce it by writing it all over the best of the picnic benches in the Folly park by the lake (best because it failed to burn as easily as the other one). Perhaps Hanna P & Adam C (his surname is actually written in full but maybe he is unaware of Hanna P's attraction to him !) could help us find the other vandals. If nothing else, could Mr & Mrs P and Mr & Mrs C have a word with their youngsters and ask them not to ruin other property. Anyway, I wish them much happiness for their future together Name supplied
Another lost cat - 10/7/06 I'm not sure if you publish lost animals on the web site? Our cat has gone missing. He was last seen on Friday 7th July. He is black and white, mainly black with white paws.He's just over one year old and is called Tigger. Last seen in the Park Road area of town, Never gone missing before always comes back. If anyone has info call us pleaseon 01367-241516 Name supplied
Faringdon Arts Festival - 10/7/06 From all the artists concerned, thanks to David, Julie and all the many helpers for putting on another fantastic event and thanks to YOU ALL for being such an appreciative audience. Let's hope we can do it all again next year. Steve Wright
Missing Cats - 10/7/06 Do you know of any cats gone missing in Faringdon over the last week? I myself have a missing cat and was told by someone in one of the shops that 5 went missing last week which looks as if they have been stolen! Name supplied
Doubting Thomas?- 10/7/06 Hmmm Doubting Thomas you may have a point! Those postings all seemed to appear at the same time yet they make reference to each other (my apologies if I'm incorrect!) Great poem Hils and Gene but to (slightly mis-)quote a famous play 'The ladies doth protest too much, methinks'! T he plot thickens.............. Name supplied Ed: Best think again!!
In case you're wondering - 9/7/06 I am me and she is she and me 'n her and her 'n me are we. 'N we're not them or he. Hil 'n Gen. we're us you see.
Faringdon Arts Festival - 9/7/06 I would like to be one of the first to congratulate David Reynolds, Julie Farmer and all the Arts Festival Team for yet another superb weekend of entertainment in the town! The atmosphere in the Market Square throughout the weekend was fantastic and the variety of entertainment on offer meant that there was something for everyone to enjoy. I have seen first hand what a massive amount of work goes into putting on this event from a few committed volunteers - behind the scenes many nails have been bitten trying to arrange insurance, road closures, emergency services, performance licenses and the rest (the list goes on!) in order for all of us to enjoy quality entertainment free of charge. I think Faringdon should be very proud of this event and of the people that organise it and I hope we get to enjoy many more Festivals in the future. For now though I hope all the team put their feet up with a well deserved glass of whatever they fancy and have a jolly good rest! Well done guys!! Anna Marlow
Doubting Thomas, ( or just a bad bout of the DTs) -8/7/06 I never knew Mr HGMs letter was to be publicised, expected it yes, but that was all, I am though, Pyshco-ceramic, which means I am good with crack pots like yourself, and I'm also tele-pathetic, (ask me anything about the t.v)......I can assure you though that I am a single individual who is not a big fan of pomposity,or arrogance, this site is open for everyone, whether they can spell or not is immaterial, it should be about everything and anything, young and old alike, that way we all gain something valuable, other peoples opinions, whether we like them or not, they are all valid, except yours of course............. and as for my " indignant squeal" I think you and I should meet behind the bike sheds at breaktime! Jim Horton
A clue for Doubting Thomas - 8/7/06 I know it may not be obvious to the casual reader but the fact is that Jim and I do not always agree.Sad but true. However I feel it is only fair that I confirm his assertion that he is a single individual. So lest there be doubt: JH is Jim and I'm not him ! ! ! HGM
The Greater Faringdon Mystery??? - 8/7/06 As a recent arrival to the Internet scene I enjoy browsing through town sites though most have about as much going for them as the average Church Notice Boards..But Faringdon.org with or without a Poetry Competition is not dull HGM’s recent sanctimonious criticism of the poetry competition was obviously intended to provoke a response from JH and JH’s indignant squeal in defence was predictable. But didn’t anyone else notice how quickly the defence appeared after the criticism ? The dates were different but both articles came out within hours of each other . Almost as if JH knew what was about to be written. Could it be that HGM and JH are the same person or are acting together trying to add an extra bit of interest to a rather dull cyber summer ? The Editors could solve this problem but they have a kind of client confidentiality situation whereby ANY comment from either of them would discourage anyone from writing in under the Name Supplied shield. It must be frustrating for you but try to live with it ladies for I am sure you would NEVER abuse the trust placed in you. What next ? A supercilious objection from HGM or a comment from JH with the usual spelling mistakes. Or could it be, heaven forbid, that Gene or Hil or both are in fact HGM/JH...Now that would be wicked but I wouldn’t put it past them ! Would you ? Agatha Christie eat your heart out ! Doubting Thomas
Harry and the sound of bells( or have you dropped another clanger?)- 6/7/06 I am sorry your bell was not rung Harry, but the competition was not about you. It was a chance for other people that read all the fine words of our learned residents and feel like they are slightly left out, because it either dosn't concern them or that they will be ridiculed by the regulars. Anyone can throw a few words together and call it a poem, and I am quite sure many of the poems are by people who would not join in as a rule. This time of the year is also a time when you have to do something different just to see something new on the site, as most people spend more time over the joys of summer, rather than sit over a keypad. Also, at no time in the last few weeks has other letters been left out because of the "poems" as you can see Harry you would not have had to much to read about would you, one month out of twelve is not such an imposition is it?, we will soon be back to talking about dog poo, planning regs' etc. I for one intend to keep this site as diverse as pos sible, I am more than happy to embrace others ideas, but you have to have one in the first place, as with everything about Faringdon, people moan when they have nothing, and moan just as loud when they get it!!! James Horton
Faringdon Arts Fest - Help needed - 5/7/06 Faringdon Arts Festival urgently needs volunteers to help marshall at this weekend's events. We also need people to help run a Cafe in the Corn Exchange during the Craft Fair. If you could help us out for any amount of time over the weekend we would be very grateful! Please contact Julie on 0845 8591720 for more details. Many Thanks
Oh Dear !!! What happened to "A light hearted look at FTPs" ? - 5/7/06 For three long years I have been an FTP supporter and sent in many comments in that time Some I thought were funny, some I know were not, and some of them I tried to write in rhyme. Some folks disagreed with me and made it very clear that my comments caused them much offence. Others were less critical, some were on my side, ( though very few leapt up in my defence) So now we have a contest based on the FTPs supposed to be light hearted, even funny. The winner of this contest will get a splendid prize.. a great big chunk of Jimmy Horton's money But now I have a problem which some of you might share though others will say I've a narrow mind. Some poems make use of language which I don't feel is "nice" and some sentiments expressed are far from kind. But I'll keep writing stuff like this when I'm in the mood and hope that Folly Cat will do as well So Jim . I think your competition was a great idea, but sad to say. It doesn't ring my bell. And now I'll wait for your response....Am I wrong or right ? But one thing you must admit.....This should liven up the site !!!! HGM
PCT Forum open meeting - 5/7/06 The South West Oxfordshire Patient and Public Involvement Forum are due to hold a Meeting in Public in Faringdon Corn Exchange on Wednesday 12th July from 2.00pm-4.00pm. We welcome members of the public to join us at the meeting, where there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions of the Forum and to hear how your local Forum serves the Patients and Public in South West Oxfordshire. For further meeting information, how you could become a Forum member, or to request a meeting agenda, please contact: Sarah Baston, OBCPPIH, Hanborough Business Park, Long Hanborough, Oxfordshire OX29 8LJ. Tel: 01993 886643 Email: sarahbaston@oacppih.org Sarah Baston Community Involvement Officer OACPPIH Tel: 01993 886643
Re Water shortage - 30/6/06 Dam! You write your humorous Poem, think you've covered all the best topics on talking points and soon as you send it in, along comes a little gem like this! Name supplied
Water shortage - 30/6/06 Following the previous correspondent's message I'd like to add some food for thought. The fact that there is a water shortage is, arguably, not the fault of the water companies. However, it is most definitely NOT the fault of the consumer. Why then do we continue to pay exactly the same for a much reduced service? Shouldn't there be a refund? Are we within our rights to withold payment? Any legal observations would be welcome! PS Apologies for moving away from the poetry...I could always write you a song though! David Reynolds Ed: Please do!!
Water Shortage - 27/6/06 Following recent press reports into the hosepipe ban affecting our town I am writing to offer to share my water requirements with my fellow residents. I have been for some time, observing official guidelines such as not flushing the toilet unless absolutely necessary and so on but unfortunately, every-time for me is absolutely necessary so I must find other ways of conserving resources in the spirit of the community. I have been living for some time on the contents of my neighbour's compost bin (kindly purchased at a discount from Vale of White Horse district council) and this has yielded several hearty soups and stews over the previous few months but following my neighbour's annual mulching of their flower beds, this particular avenue of supply has dried up. I therefore would like to offer on a weekly basis, several gallons of my bathwater, used once only and perfumed lightly with Norfolk Lavender bath elixir for whoever would like to re-use it. Is it too much to ask for a reduction in my council tax bill in recognition of my continued commitment to preserving resource? Yours sincerely Mrs T Oldtrye