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Scrooge, you're having a laff - 25/12/04 I have just read Mr Scrooge's letter It may be this rather fine glass of châteaux nuf de pap'e I am quaffing,(hic) or it may be not(hic) but is he not praising the volunteers of this town(hic) and having a go at the lack of festivities at Budgens( hic) But as he is a total arse, he is trying to be, what's the word I'm looking for here...... em.....sarcastic? Wasted on here Mr Scrooge. Still it has fired up a good 'ol firestorm, much more readable than planning applications Nos GFA/ whatever,yawn yawn. I'm sure Mr Scrooge is doing a good impersonation of Vicky Pollard as we read this, explaining that yeah, but no, but yeah what happened wuz. Bring back the stocks that is what I say, not exactly politically correct, but a lot more fun. By the way there are lots of things to do for the Faringdon festival, perhaps Mr Scrooge, could volunteer to have wet sponges thrown at him, as recompense while the bands change over. Just a thought. Jim Horton.(Hic)
Another Response to Scrooge - 24/12/04 Well said David Reynolds All year round I hear grumbling and criticism about the town and about the happenings in it, both officially organised and those executed by people who give up their time to do things for an ungrateful, whingeing public. Some people (funny how they're usually anonymous) seem to do nothing but sit on their backsides and moan after the event. Criticism is fine when it's constructive, and there's lots to irritate and annoy us - but I for one like it here, there's loads going on, a great community spirit for those who care to look, something for everyone, so may I make a request to all the miseries out there who side with Scrooge, and say take a little time to find out what actually happens here, and why - instead of jumping in with your knee jerk, ignorant, grumbling responses. Just try working out just how much time, effort and organisational skill it takes to do anything around here ..... and that includes the work done by the much maligned town council. Volunteers may not always get things right, but at least they make the effort! Hilary Taylor
GFA/4905/5-X 18 Coxwell Road - 24/12/04 In amongst my Christmas Cards I have just received GFA/4905/5-x Amended Plans. This latest proposal is: Demolition of no.18 Coxwell Road and 31 Elm Road and insertion of new residential development at land to the rear of 31 Elm Road, between Hawthorn Road and Coxwell Road. There is no mention of how many dwellings will be included in this 'new residential insertion' but I understand the suggestion is for 16. The proposal was dated the 20th December and was sent by second class post so objectors will have to send their protest letters to the Town Council and the District Council by the 10th January 2005. So please, when you are busy writing your 'thank you' letters don't forget to write to Mr Deans and our own Town Council. This latest proposal is running concurrently with an appeal against the refusal of GFA/4905/4-x which is not due to be heard until October 2005 so it is not surprising that the developers are becoming a little impatient. I am aware that this is the season of goodwill to all men (and women of course ) but I can't believe it was intended to include Backland Developers. So far the FTC and the VWHDC (despite one or two developer sympathisers ) have looked after the interest of the vast number of Faringdon protesters and I am sure we would all wish them a Happy and Peaceful 2005 and ask them to bear in mind that that is all we are asking for. Harry G Mitchell
Christmas Bah Humbug - a response!- 23/12/04 Much as I support everybody's right to have their own view of Christmas I do take offence at the comments below from "Ebenezer Scrooge Esq"! (He hasn't even the courage of his convictions to state his real name!). Many events and activities that people both enjoy and benefit from in Faringdon and the surrounding area are organised and run entirely by people who have the goodwill to volunteer their time to give something back to the community. The folks who take out Thomas the Tank for fundraising every year do a great job and the money goes to many good causes. I for one wouldn't want to be out in all weathers doing this. Good on you folks. Mr. Scrooge it is easy to sit back and knock things. How about trying your hand at getting involved? There are many good causes to volunteer for but, as an example, we're always looking for people for the Faringdon Arts Festival. You might even enjoy it! David Reynolds
Parking on Street - 23/12/04 I've read the many comments regarding on street parking and who should have priority, residents or visitors. The real answer is that no individual has the right to obstruct the highway by antisocial parking, it is of late commonplace for people to park on footpaths which is totally illegal but rarely if ever policed. Parking on the footpath causes extreme danger to people walking by as they often have to walk in the road to get past the offenders vehicle,This is particularly a problem for the elderly and for people with pushchairs and prams who have every right to expect free unobstructed use of the footpath. In short, don't buy a house with no off road parking if you have a car. If the area you intend parking in is not wide enough for you to be able to park without mounting the footpath then go and find somewhere else. Simple really isn't it. P.James
Folly Tower Christmas Lights - 22/12/04 Hooray- the Folly Tower has been lit again this year - this time from the base, so that the structure of the tower can be seen. Once again its Peter White who has done this on his own initiative - so thanks to him again- its a great Faringdon advert for motorists on the bypass and a pleasure to residents I'm sure. Since the millenium, each year Peter has found a different way to make the Folly special - the wondrous millenium beacon, lighting the room near the top of the tower, the star. Thanks Peter
Christmas - Bah Humbug - 22/12/04 Fact...The object of any business is to make money and not to squander it. Thomas The Tank Engine, manned by volunteers, has been out in all weathers for the past three weeks collecting money. Very commendable !.. BUT THE MONEY WILL BE GIVEN TO SO CALLED DESERVING CAUSES. Is there no welfare or social security benefit system in this country? The town centre has a Christmas Tree and Christmas lights which in themselves produce no profit but they can be defended because they do encourage shoppers to spend on things they don't really need like Turkey, Christmas Puddings, Mince pies, presents for people they don't really like and cards for people they don't really know. Even the editors of this free (I hate that word) website have fallen prey to this seasonal disorder and wished their contributors a Merry Christmas. At this time of year most businesses seem to feel the need to squander some of their profits on such frivolities as decorations and lights.. I feel ill at the thought of all this unnecessary expenditure. But there is one haven of calm sanity..the local super market. As I stood there checking my bill, a procedure which fortunately very few people bother with, I was impressed by the air of calm. The long queues at the only two open tills were not assailed by Christmas Carols, there was no spurious attitude of Christmas cheer and I was delighted to see that the Christmas Grotto, which in the past had given (another word I hate) pleasure to children, who spend very little money, had not reappeared. I had already been impressed by the electricity-saving lack of lights on the Christmas Trees outside this establishment. My congratulations to the person who had the strength of character to ignore totally the so called festive season. Where can I buy shares in your business ? Ebenezer Scrooge Esq.
Christmas Lights - 22/12/04 Talking of Christmas lights - I was thinking of walking round Faringdon this year and taking photos of the various displays - but as usual I just havent got around to it. SO. Next December - I shall do this - and I hope to publish the pictures on the web site for all to see, and have a competition to see which display is voted the best by our visitors. Maybe we can get someone to sponsor it and have a prize. Any Comments/suggestions - good idea/bad idea?? Hilary Taylor. joint Ed, FO
Dog Mess on Folly Hill22/12/04 Being a regular walker to my two Labradors on Folly Hill I am appalled and disgusted by the dog cr*p all over the hill itself but most of all on the footpaths. To think we may get snow this winter and children will be rolling and sledging down these paths and the hill turns my stomach. As well as being a major source of annoyance when at least twice a week I have it all over my boots, dog waste matter contains a parasite which can cause blindness. Having just moved from London where it is extremely socially unacceptable to allow your dog to foul and not clear up after it seems that Faringdon is way behind. No-one enjoys picking up after their dog but its something you must do for the good of the community. If I pass one more dog owner who will cheerily say "Good morning" whilst allowing their dog to poo all over the path I will be offering them a bag and asking them to use it. Can we not do more to make dog owners clear up after their dog? Yours feeling queasy now Mel Taylor Have a look at http://www.faringdon.org/tareportproblems.htm for information on reporting all sorts of problems. The contact for dog mess is VWHDC waste.team@whitehorsedc.gov.uk Tel: 01235 520202 ext 640 -maybe they don't provide sufficient dog mess bins, or clear them out often enough - there is a dog warden here; and as you may know - allowing your dog to foul a pavement is an offence. You could always take your camera, when you see this happening get the evidence, and report it to the police - Ed
Dinner and Dance, 4th February, Sudbury House- 22/12/04 Sudbury House, 7.30pm for 8pm Live Band and auction of celebrity memorabilia £35 ticket from Tourist Information Office or David Reynolds 01367 243663 Fund Raising event for Faringdon Arts Festival
Merry Christmas - 22/12/04 Thankyou to all of you who contribute to this section of the website- we're always pleased to get comments and views - about almost anything! Thankyou too to those who read it regularly - we now get 600/700 hits to the site each week. Any of you who have something to say, please write to us- we don't have to publish your name (though we do need to know it) Happy Christmas from Hilary and Gene
Xmas lights. 20/12/04 Do the town council want to hire a designer for next years display in the town centre? If so may I suggest they speak to the residents of Park Road and Marlborough Close.Their displays are excellent. Congratulations to them. P.S The Folly Tower looks great. Just as it should ,well done to whoever is concerned in its lighting up. Name witheld
Folly Park Sculptures 20/12/04 Although I don't fully understand them, I quite like the sculptures in the Folly Park. I guess they represent a family (or Stonehenge with holes in) But can someone please explain why they are made of fibreglass. Was it to do with how they were cast or were they made this way for cost reasons ? Is it surprising that fibreglass statues are easier to vandalise or will deteriorate quicker than ones made of concrete or stone I know concrete can be vandalised too and ultimately, anything can be defaced if someone really wants to go to the effort. Please don't get me wrong though, I'd rather have a park with plastic sculptures than no sculptures. Richard Edgington.
Faringdon Arts Festival 20/12/04 Hi. I'm the chap with the phone number on the front page of this site, and I thought I'd add a few details of what we're after for next year's Faringdon Arts Festival. Our dates are 4-10 July, 2005, with bigger 'headline' events every night of that week (so far including Radio 2's 'whispering' Bob Harris, and Glenn Tillbrook, the songwriter of Squeeze, in concert), leading to a packed weekend on the 9-10th. That will include the Royal British Legion's National Day of Celebration on the Sunday morning: we're working with them to make that something special. What we're after in terms of local acts is: everyone! If you can play the violin, sing, recite a poem, whatever, we're after you to appear on our Market Place stage over the weekend. And if you have an art skill to pass on, then it's entirely possible we might set aside a workshop for you also. It's not just the experts we're after: we want everyone to take part. And we're also always pleased to get offers of practical help, especially to be provided on the weekend itself. So do give me a call on 01367 243912, or drop me a line at paulcornell@owlservice.freeserve.co.uk And tell me what you can do! Paul Cornell
The Star of Faringdon 20/12/04 The non appearance of the Folly Tower Star has been a disappointment to a lot of Faringdonians and this year's floodlighting unfortunately doesn't have the same impact. However I understand it was installed by Peter White of Faringdon Electrical Services who also provided the Millennium Searchlight and the cost was shared by them and the Folly Tower Trust. If we are to get the Star back for next year perhaps the Faringdon Town Council might be persuaded to provide some financial backing. Meanwhile I am sure I'm not the only one who would like to thank Peter and the Folly Tower Trust for their efforts. On Sunday my Grand-daughter insisted that we paid a visit to the Faringdon Four in Folly Park because she said 'they looked lonely'. It's hardly surprising.The access road is a disgrace and only fit for Multi Terrain Vehicles (the type used by trendy mum's taking their children to school ). I don't know or care who owns it but if any members of the FTC or VWHDC did visit the sculpture occasionally they might be motivated to get something done to this pot-holed track. At the entrance to the park there is a big pile of Firework remains...It's been there for almost 2 months ... Is it Rubbish, or yet more Modern Art ? I would also like to second Jim's thanks to Hilary and Gene for keeping this site running. As he so obviously demonstrates there is a desperate need for it. I assume that making contributions is cheaper than visiting a psychiatrist and less embarrassing than phoning The Samaritans. It certainly seems to work for Jim (OK, Yes..... and me !) Finally, Merry Christmas to all Faringdon-online readers and contributors I hope that everyone (apart from the odd backland developer) gets everything they hope for in 2005 Harry G Mitchell
Merry Christmas - 19/12/04 I would just like to say to everyone that comes onto this site, and to Hilary and Gene for keeping it going, Merry Christmas. Its always informative and entertaining, some serious issues, and some daft, mainly caused by Harry and myself trying to lighten, or wind others up enough to join in. The "When Harry met slurry" badinage was my favourite So while we all have a well earned break. A message to all the councillors, town centre planners, infill builders and all the other annoyances in Faringdon that make me into a grumpy old man, "we are watching you". And to Harry, sharpen that quill, get out your tin helmet and flack jacket, because "in coming!" will be your most used phrase of 2005 Prepare to do battle, I did hear a rumour that your computer screen looks like a snow scene where you use so much Tipex to cover up your spelling mistakes. iI that right? Jim Horton
Rotary - where the money goes - 17/12/04 The Rotary Club of Faringdon & District has supported the following during the period July 2003 to August 2004 Rotary Shoe-Box scheme (500 boxes), Hope & Aid Direct (Convoy of Hope to Kosovo), Coping with Life (videos for local schools), Life Education Centres - Bus Appeal, Life Education Centres, Oxfordshire, Faringdon Community Bus, Faringdon Christmas Lights-On, RUFIJI Leprosy Trust, Aqua box 30, Red Cross Iran Earthquake Appeal, Rotarians Eliminating Malaria in Tanzania (REMIT), Rotary Youth Leadership Award 2004 (outward bound course for a local young person), Spinal Injuries Fund - sponsorship of nurse Jill Church, The Friendly Club - Shrivenham, Water Aid, Rotary Foundation, Bromsgrove Day Centre Faringdon (towards equipment), Stroke Awareness Day, Senior Citizens Party, Churches Together in Faringdon, Farm Africa, Faringdon Bowls Club, Faringdon Pre-School Re-Building Appeal. Many thanks to those who so generously support our Christmas Appeal with Father Christmas and Thomas the Tank Engine and also our numerous fundraising activities throughout the year.
Vandalism - Folly Park sculptures - 17/12/04 Letter to VWHDC I'm sorry to report that vandals have attacked the Folly Sculptures and inflicted some damage on one of the structures. The outer layer has been broken and an area of about 6 inches diameter has been removed, exposing the fibre glass layer. At first I thought it might be frost damage, but on closer inspection, other statues have evidence of impact. I suggest you consider getting it repaired to prevent water damage to the rest of the statue. I think the statues are an asset to the town and it would be a big shame if they were not repaired. EW Reply from VWHDC Thank you for your email, it is really sad to see the sculptures damaged. We have told the police and hope to get the sculptures repaired in the new year.
The Star of Faringdon - 18/12/04 What happened to the star light on the Folly? It was great last year and could be seen from Wantage, could it be restored for next year?. Paul -Faringdon
Christmas Lights- 14/12/04 I for one think the lights in the Market Square in Faringdon are perfect. Understated and elegant -they look festive without being trashy. The tree, however, does look like they ran out of lights half way through! Mel Taylor
ROTARY CHRISTMAS COLLECTION with THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE & FATHER CHRISTMAS - 9/12/04 SATURDAY 4 DECEMBER - FARINGDON Stanford Road area, Berners Way, Tuckers Road, Nursery View MONDAY 6 DECEMBER - FARINGDON Highworth Road area, Westland Road, Orchard Hill, The Pines etc. TUESDAY 7 DECEMBER - Shrivenham WEDNESDAY 8 DECEMBER - Clanfield THURSDAY 9 DECEMBER - Stanford in the Vale FRIDAY 10 DECEMBER - FARINGDON Park Road area, Marines Drive, Town End Road, Marlborough Gardens, Volunteer Way MONDAY 13 DECEMBER - Watchfield TUESDAY 14 DECEMBER - Southmoor THURSDAY 16 DECEMBER - FARINGDON & GREAT COXWELL Coleshill Drive etc., Fernham Road, Folly View Road, Great Coxwell FRIDAY 17 DECEMBER - Lechlade SATURDAY 18 DECEMBER - Lechlade MONDAY 20 DECEMBER - Longworth & Buckland TUESDAY 21 DECEMBER - Uffington, Fernham, Little Coxwell
Meeting with Thames Water- 8/12/04 A meeting took place between John Gilbert of Thames Water and various representatives of the campaign against the Sewage treatment plans in Faringdon See the minutes of the 2nd Dec meeting
18 Coxwell Road - proposal GFA/4905/5-X - 7/12/04 On Tuesday night the Town Council overwhelmingly and rightly rejected the above proposal to put an access road between No31 and No33 Elm Road mainly on the basis of the dangers of the increased volume of traffic. This is an extremely popular decision for more than 300 residents on the Orchard Hill Estate who are affected by this proposal. However.....and there's always a however isn't there?....the Town Council is aware that this proposal is incorrect and we are told that another is being submitted to include the demolition of No31. What this means is that although the current proposal has been rejected the new proposal will be the subject of an entirely new debate and any objections by residents and other members of the public must again be submitted to the Vale and Town Council as before. It is particularly important to keep letting the Vale know how you feel because although the Town Council can add their thoughts to a proposal the decisions are finally made at the Vale in Abingdon by people who will have no idea about the dynamics of the community in which we live. As always I can be contacted on 01367 243663 or david@reynolds46.fsnet.co.uk David Reynolds
Christmas Lights - 09/12/04 For a market town wishing to promote itself, the Christmas lights are disappointing. Did they all come on at the 'lighting-up' ceremony - if not why not - and what happened to the displays which once adorned the old town hall which were provided by The Folly Ball? Do they not meet current regulations? Faringdon's Christmas Lights were previously installed by Peter White who gave us the wonderful Millenium Beacon atop Folly Tower. May I ask of those who know what the installation cost was then, what the cost is now for a poorer display and why the decision was made to employ another organisation to undertake the installation. name supplied
Emergency Telephone Numbers- 08/12/04 I wonder if it would be possible to print some of the emergency telephone numbers, and details of what to do if you have to report a crime in the What's On in Faringdon paper. This way people who don't get to read this website would be fully informed, as this paper is delivered to your door. I know there are numbers printed in the small white business book (not sure what it's called) but unfortunately when our windows were smashed in last week, none of the numbers enabled us to talk to an actual person. Caroline, Faringdon
Christmas tree - 08/12/04 I promise not to always moan on this website BUT... Doesn't the Christmas Tree in the centre of town look like a child that's had a growth spurt!? The poor thing is so tall and gangly and isn't even properly dressed..the lights only cover half the tree. Is that it..or is there more to come? Caroline,Faringdon
Police Station Manning - 6/12/04 I would like to draw Faringdon residents to a scheme I read about in the Telegraph a few weeks ago; so frustrated were a local community by the fact their police station was unmanned for periods of the day that they banded together, approached their police authority and got the go-ahead to run the police station with the help of local volunteers. When a crime was reported to them it was possible to contact the community police directly. Just a thought. Penny, Gloucester Street Ed: Thanks Penny. In fact I and Hilary Taylor have been Police volunteers for a couple of years now. We mostly help out when the station is manned- there are too few of us to be able to open it regularly and reliably. I'm pretty sure that Jane Rennells, the sergeant, would welcome more volunteers
18 Coxwell Road - 6/12/04 I understand from Martin Deans (VWHDC Planning) that the developer's agent has spoken to him and confirmed that a mistake has been made on the planning application – apparently it is proposed to demolish No 31. This will be corrected as part of the amended application. The Vale is awaiting written confirmation from the developer but as this has come verbally from Martin Deans we should assume that this is the intention. David Reynolds
Thomas the Tank Engine - 6/12/04 Could anyone publish (preferably here on the web) which days and where the Rotary Club "Thomas the Tank Engine" will be coming around Faringdon this week. If younger children are to enjoy events such as these, parents usually need to do a bit of planning (food, baths, etc.). Some notice/ publicity with details would be useful. Please don't think this minor gripe a criticism of the good works that the Rotary club do. Merry Christmas all! Simon.
Relocation of the Post office to Dillons - 5/12/04 The notice from the Post Office National Multiples Partner Manager(John Holden 08457 223344) first indicates that the move is being considered, but then later that it will happen in January 2005. The notice points out that the same range of services will be available and that Dillons offers easier pushchair and wheelchair access. It was 7 years ago that Faringdon Association of Residents launched a campaign and successfully prevented this from happening. I fully expect the same to happen again. Questions must arise: Where will the Post vans stop - on the pavement?? Even if not, the congestion in the town centre will be worse What view will the police take re traffic congestion There may be level access into the shop, but crossing the 2 roads is trickier What will happen to the PO (purpose built) building Is there space enough for front and back office services?? In his notice, John Holden says he welcomes comments!! Gene Webb I've been told that both buildings are owned by T&M (Forbuoys and Martin)
18 Coxwell Road - Meeting Update from Weds 1st December - 4/12/04 Over 50 concerned residents from the Orchard Hill Estate packed into last Wednesday’s meeting about the latest proposal to access the 18 Coxwell Road site via Elm Road. There is a strong movement against this proposal based on the effect it will have on the lives of over 300 residents on the Estate! The general feeling of residents is that they are concerned at the danger that will result from the inevitable increase in traffic volume during and after development of the site. There are particular concerns about the safety of children who currently play in this area and within yards of the proposed access road. The road infrastructure of the estate is simply not suitable for this proposal. The Orchard Hill Estate was built as a cul-de-sac and the increase in the number of resident owned cars is already far in excess of what would have been envisaged when the estate was built thirty years ago. Utility and emergency vehicles currently experience problems negotiating parked cars on the narrow roads. Residents believe this will only get worse. Concerns are also expressed at the lowering of the quality of life for residents through the increase in noise and pollution during and after develpment of the site. The problem with this proposal is that it is ill-conceived and simply hasn’t been thought through. There are few details available on exactly where the road will cut through. We know it’s between 31 and 33 Elm Road but if, as the application states, no trees are to be felled, it is impossible to see where the road will go. There was speculation at the meeting that No 31 Elm Road has been earmarked for demolition but there is no confirmation on this. Secondly, we still have no idea how many properties are to be built on the site although the Vale has requested this information from the developer. There are many, as yet, unanswered questions which we will continue asking until we get the answers. Also, the numbers present and tone of this meeting should leave no-one in any doubt that the residents are strongly against this proposal and are collectively ready to oppose it through every means at their disposal. Anyone who is affected by this proposal (including the developer!) is more than welcome to call me on 01367 243663. David Reynolds
Old Health Centre01/12/04 A few years back there was an article in The Folly newspaper to the effect that the old health centre building had been left to the people of Faringdon and was subsequently converted to its use as a health centre. Unfortunately, I don't recall who left it or indeed in what year, but at the time wondered why, if the building was left to us we couldn't have had it converted to a community centre after the new health centre was built. It also begged the question as to whether any of the money from the sale to the developers for private housing has been returned to the local community. Has anyone any knowledge of these matters? JM
The number to ring to report a crime to the police is: 0845 8 505 505 - ed, FO	If you wish to contact the police to offer information which might help track down criminals or wrong doers, there are several ways of doing so. *Phone 01235 776000 (Wantage control room) *Visit the Faringdon station personally. There is a telephone outside the police station which can be used when the station itself is unmanned *Drop in a note. If you would like to see a specific officer, then leave a message to that effect.
Crimestoppers? I dont think so- 30/11/04 .I sympathise with Caroline and trying to get through to the police. I too tried to contact the police to report a crime. However, on calling the local number which I think is for Wantage I was unable to get through - just rang and rang. I then called 999 who told me to ring the same number again. By the time I got through and reported the crime about 25 minutes had gone by. The police were then on the scene pretty quick but the offenders had gone. Perhaps if those minutes were saved the offenders could have been caught nearby. Maybe as they weren't caught they could be getting ready to commit another crime? Name witheld
Just say "No" - 30/11/04 Reading the letter about the window being smashed is one of to many stories you hear of today. mostly caused be young teenagers who have never been told " no". Everywhere you go nowadays you meet up with spoilt brats running wild, everywhere seems to be a crèche,I visited the health centre last week, a place where you really don't want to be because your properly feeling under the weather, for the forty five minutes I waited, there were screaming children running wild,playing with the toys laid out to hopefully keep them quiet, with the parents totally oblivious to the mayhem, they carried on reading their magazines. It got to a point where a dear old lady tried to talk to one of the children to calm it down, with no effect at all, and still no response from the parent. Its just the same when you go to a restaurant. I'm not talking burger bars, where you expect to find total bloody chaos; no, proper grown up restaurants, for grown ups. Still the children are heard and also sadly seen, and what makes it worse is the feeble, " mummy's getting cross now" which is totally ignored by the spoilt offspring. No amount of staring by other diners has any effect either, and of course we have far better manners than to actually say, " for Christ sake shut that bloody kid up, we are trying to have a quiet meal here. Here's a surprise, no, we don't think your child is a little darling, and, we haven't come here to be your baby sitter " To be honest, I would rather be in a room full of smokers, than a room full of badly behaved children, in fact, instead of making smokers leave a building to smoke, forcing them outside because its anti-social, I think any one with badly behaved children should be legally forced to do the same, as they are also anti-social, seeing groups of parents lovingly looking at their little darlings while freezing their bits off, would make the rest of us give a great big cheer. By the way, I am a parent , and my daughter has been brought up with manners, and to respect other people, its not difficult to do, you don't have to watch daytime television to learn it, just learn to say "NO", that way, they might not go around smashing peoples windows, oh! a pig's just flown past the window...................... Name witheld
18 Coxwell Road - 30/11/04 There will be a meeting of residents at the Old Town Hall 6.30pm Weds 1st December to discuss the newest application to build an access road via Elm Road to 18 Coxwell Road. Anyone who believes they will be affected by this proposal is invited to attend. David Reynolds
Police Station........ Where? - 29/11/04 Saturday, early evening, around 6.30pm I go to stroke my cat sitting in the window. It's dark so the curtains are pulled..next thing I know...BANG!!!...someone has bashed our window in. The noise alone nearly gave me a heart attack! I was stood in the window so immediately opened the curtains to look out, but saw no- one. I stood there shaking while my husband flew outside with rage. This is the 3RD TIME IN 1 YEAR! .Our next door neighbour's window was broken too a few months back, so it's not just our house. My husband said he was going to phone the police..a waste of time really, but he wanted to report it. We know Faringdon police station is never open anymore so knew not to phone there...tried Wantage, closed after 5.30pm ish..phoned Highworth..not your area sorry..try Swindon..not your area sorry, try READING! Phoned Reading who were very understanding and gave us a crime report number but are 50 plus miles away! What could they do? We need some police around Faringdon..this is a petty crime instance, but it very inconvenient and frightening if this happens to you..and when someone decides to scratch your new car. We used to like Faringdon. Caroline,Faringdon
Oxfordshire Geology Trust- Press Release - 29/11/04 UNCOVERING OXFORDSHIRE'S AMAZING GEOLOGICAL SITES Oxfordshire Geology Trust has received a grant of £7,040 from English Nature, through Defra's the Aggregate Levy Sustainability Fund (ALSF), which will enable us to improve exposure of, and access to, some of our most needy geological sites. Oxfordshire has a rich and varied Earth Heritage which has been exploited for generations as a source of aggregates. As a result of this quarrying, rocks and fossils have been exposed which would otherwise never have been seen. It is these rocks and fossils which tell a fascinating story about how Oxfordshire's environment has changed over the last 200 million years. Unfortunately, many of these exposures are being neglected and are in need of conservation and re-exposure if local communities and future generations are to have the opportunity to experience at first hand the evidence of our past environments. Using the ALSF grant, we will be arranging practical geoconservation days when volunteers will be able to help with the clearance of the sites. The perfect opportunity to get out into the countryside and get your hands dirty! The Trust will also be arranging field trips to the sites once the clearance work has been undertaken so that local communities can have the opportunity to appreciate the Earth Heritage that is right on their doorstep. If you would like further details about the project or would like to get involved please contact: Jane Worrall, Director, Oxfordshire Geology Trust Tel: 01367 243 260 or Email: contact@oxfordshiregt.org Scroll down on the History page see information about Faringdon's SSSI off the Fernham Road
Faringdon Post Office Move - 27/11/04 Is this a good thing or not? I am not so sure.... The current Post Office offers a large range of services - will these reduce for the move? Can Dillons fit everything without reducing their services? What will happen to the old building? How will the postmen park to collect the post from Dillons? Sarah Allen-Stevens
Faringdon Post Office to move to Dillons - 25/11/04 This is planned to happen in January 2005 Points made are: Dillons is only 120 yards away Brand new Post Office Counter A bright orderly retail offer Additional space within the store- improved manoeuvrability especially for wheelchair and pushchair users There'll be no break in service The note I saw is from John Holden, National Multiples Partner Manager Customer Helpline: 08457 22 33 44
Rumour is a lying Jade - 24/11/04 No I don't know who first said this but I can give Gene and Hilary one or two facts. Health Centre. In June last this year I sent a letter of complaint to the VWHDC about the old Health Centre saying it looked neglected and asking them what was going on I received an email from the Regional Development Manager of the Nucleus Housing Group dated 01/07/04 (almost 5 months ago) which said : "The former Faringdon Health Centre in Coxwell Road, Faringdon, was purchased by Beacon Housing Association in November 2002 from South West Oxfordshire Primary Care Trust. The building works were completed in February this year. However, grant funding was not made available by the Housing Corporation until the end of the project. This grant allocation has determined the category and tenure of the finished units - the nine units forming the main quad are to be made available for shared ownership purchase by key workers and the detached 1 bed bungalow for key worker intermediate rent. Shared ownership and intermediate rent properties are particularly appropriate for key workers whom have a reasonable income but are unable to afford a home of their own on the open market. The Association is about to launch a sales drive targeting public sector workers i.e. teachers, nurses/health workers, social workers, occupational therapists, fire fighters, police, police civilians, prison staff, probation service staff and council planners. Whilst it is hoped that applicants will have a local connection it must be recognised that some key workers wishing to live in Faringdon will work outside the area and may travel to, say, Oxford or Swindon". John Prescott tells us that in this country we are ankle deep in families needing homes but here in Faringdon we have homes in need of families and we are supposed to be planning hundreds more (houses not families). 18 Coxwell Road. The owners of this property are determined to maximise the profit on the sale of their, now surplus to requirements, family home by selling it with outline planning permission for a small estate. Rumour says it will be called The Rabbit Warren. No one can blame them for trying if they have such a pressing need for a few more £££,£££,s. Certain members of the Town and District Councils sympathise with them but the vast majority has made it clear that the extra profit for one family does not justify the misery it will cause to others in Faringdon. The main objection will always be that any development will cause disruption to the many neighbours and danger to children going to and from school. This latest proposal via Elm Road is the fifth attempt but it uses a different Developer and Agent from the previous four. At the same time the Developer and Agent of the first four attempts has appealed against the refusal of the fourth proposal. Are you still following me ? This complex procedure is attrition planning which means that anyone can submit a plan to build anything anywhere and there is no need for the proposer to have bought nos 31 and 33 Elm Road or even told the owners before applying to build there. The owners of 31and 33 could clarify the situation but that's up to them. Finally when the Town Council and District Council refuse to accept a proposal an appeal can be lodged with The Planning Inspectorate in Bristol. This worthy body probably know as much about Faringdon as I do about Bristol but a clever Barrister/Developer/Agent could make any project sound reasonable. Remember the Millennium Dome ? Does that help ? HGM
Old Buses - Fernham Road - 23/11/04 Today I saw 4 very old and dilapidated double decker buses parked at the end of the Fernham Road. Who owns them? Is this becoming the bus park for Faringdon? Just curious Gene Webb
Ambiguous Rumours about the Old Health Centre - 23/11/04 I wonder where these rumours emanate from? As I understood the (then current) rumour, the properties at the Old Health Centre were earmarked for 'key workers' from the outset. If we are to believe rumours, then - according to a correspondant - Eddie Williams (TP 17/06/04) there were 9 units for shared ownership and only one for rent anyway. The development was allocated by the end of 2002 - and ready for occupation in or about January 2004 (according to the above) so what grants were available then that have been axed in mid project? Were grants secured in the first place, that have now been withdrawn by the Labour Government? From whom, - the Vale council? - the Vale housing association? - the developer? Private developers/landlords are not presently eligible for grants for housing to rent as far as I know. Who 's "we"? - and what does it mean "the only way we could secure them"? If the homes only now 'need to be marketed' to find owners/occupiers, how were occupiers to be found before 'the plug was pulled' ? Divine intervention? There was a (controversial) bill going through parliament this year which would have offered grants to private landlords/developers to rent as affordable homes - could this be what was meant? If so, they were never available in the first place because the bill was only getting its second reading by the time the homes were presumed ready for occupation. It was a revival of a conservative plan which was shelved (in 1995) and has been/is strongly criticised by housing associations because the not-for-profit housing associations would have been competing against commercial firms for funding. - instead of (as at present) having partnerships between house builders and housing associations The scheme for loans to key workers (a totally different scheme) has floundered in some areas because of lack of proper planning, ambiguity regarding the criteria for procurement of these, and a lack of funds in the face of the considerable demand. Are these the grants which are referred to? So who is the developer anyway - if it's a private developer the failure of the bill to be passed can have had no real bearing on the situation - unless of course there was the expectation of retrospective funding, for some reason. So what/for whom exactly were the grants which have now 'had the plug pulled' on them? Perhaps the source of these confusing rumours could enlighten us all with a few unbiased FACTS, then ignorant people like me wouldnt be left wondering. Hilary Taylor
Old Health Centre- 22/11/04 I've been told that 'Because the Labour government pulled the plug on grants for housing to rent the only way we could secure them was to accept funding for these properties for 'keyworkers'. Now they need to be marketed to find people: teachers, health workers, police who would like to rent or buy via shared ownership' I've heard a rumour that there is delay in selling the property as there is some problem with vehicle access- seems unlikely as the 'inning and outing' of cars when it was a Health Centre was constant. I've also heard, a rumour again, that maybe because of the delay in putting these properties on the market that the developer has gone out of business. Gene Webb
18 Coxwell Road- 22/11/04 I've heard a rumour that the would be developer for this site has bought nos 31 and 33 Elm Road - where the access is wanted to be Gene Webb
Swan Lane Development - 20/11/04 53 sheltered apartments and 12 Affordable dwellings As part of the planning agreement, the Housing provider (Kindle Housing, Sidmouth), and the developer(McCarthy & Stone ) will provide: - £9262 for offsite recreational facilities (no detail as to what, where, when- but the money will go to VWHDC) - £4800 for Faringdon Market Place improvements(no detail as to whether this is for further changes or to help pay for what has already been done - VWHDC willl know) - £2000 towards the Faringdon Community Bus ( no detail as to when this will be paid) - Affordable Housing(up to 80% private ownership) - to be available before more than 27 of the private dwellings have been occupied.
Faringdon Town Council Matters - 20/11/04 Pump House Faringdon Town Council have asked Lord Faringdon if, following the necessary repair work, he would accept the return of the Pump House. Apparently he said 'not at the moment' . It seems that the lease signed by former Town Councillors doesn't allow for early termination. So the work continues Starting the work was delayed through the contractor who was awarded the contract increasing the price before work had started. FTC decided to get new quotes from 2 contractors. The contract has now been awarded to EW Beard. Current work will make ready the ground floor ( 2 rooms) and toilets, including mechanical and electrical work on the ground and first floor( including an external lift to the ground floor). Target completion for this phase is about July 2005 Still to be done are the 1st and 2nd floors. The Theatre and the old bar are likely to be 'mothballed' pending a decision to demolish or renovate. If you want to see the detail of the schedule of works, ask at the FTC office. Perhaps Lord Faringdon will accept the return of the building when the repair work has been done. Land adjacent to Willes Close Extract from Recreation and Open spaces meeting 20/10/04 The Clerk passed on advice received from the Solicitor regarding options for the future disposal of the land, which confirmed that the only option was to sell the land back to the County Council for the sum of £750. Cllr. Leniec proposed that an item be placed on the Agenda of the January Town meeting to discuss the future of the land and a Motion to allow Council to sell the land back to the County Council, and this was seconded and CARRIED. Ed note This land was once part of the Faringdon Secondary Modern school(later the Junior school). It belonged to Oxon CC, who I understand sold it to FTC for a very small amount of money on condition that it is used for Community purposes. The space is 'land locked' at the moment, but it is not beyond possibility that when the nearby industrial land is developed and there is housing on the cricket field that vehicle access would be possible. Also everyone knows that permitted land use changes over time - there was a time when 'back land development' was not permitted, or who would have thought that it would be possible to build on contaminated land. I wonder what Oxon CC would do with it if it was sold back to them - build houses??, change to industrial? Sell it for lots of ££?? Perhaps we need to come up with suggestions for the use of the land- anything to stop FTC from giving away one of the few, potentially valuable assets that the Town owns. The town meeting is on Mon January 24th, 2005 Corn Exchange The new lease for the Corn Exchange includes a responsibility (thought to be 50:50 with VWHDC) for repairs - internal and external. FTC are required under the terms of the lease to build a £20k fund to cover this so they will be precepting £5k per annum at least for the next 4 years. The good news is that the Corn Exchange is generating more income now, and if it wasn't for this £5k it would almost be breaking even. Thanks to Cnclr Matthew Barber for this information and the planning gain information for Swan Lane development Matthews website
GFA/4905/5-X- 17/11/04 This refers to the development in the back garden of 18 Coxwell Road. It was preceded by GFA/4905/1, GFA/4905/2, GFA/4905/3 and GFA/4905/4 . The latest version, not surprisingly known as GFA/4905/5, involves a different Developer and an access through Orchard Hill and Elm Road. This means that in addition to the families bordering the garden of 18 Coxwell Road (of which I am one ) there will now be a further fifty or so families which will have their lifestyle severely damaged by the extra traffic generated if this development goes ahead. The noise and dirt created by a constant stream of Bulldozers, Skip lorries, Concrete mixers and General Construction traffic during the many months of construction work can only be imagined. In June last year the owners of the property said in a statement to The Folly "We are not prepared to comment on what other people in the town are saying or doing..." It is to be hoped that the Town and District Councils do not take the same cavalier attitude. Harry G Mitchell
18 Coxwell Road Development - 17/11/04 Just when you thought this had gone away it raises it's ugly head again. An application has been received (again) by the Vale of White Horse to demolish 18 Coxwell Road to build an unknown number of houses on the site. The difference with this application is that the access is to be through Elm Road (currently a cul de sac). If this proposal goes ahead it will affect every resident in and around the area, Orchard Hill, Beech Close, Hawthorn Road, Highworth and, of course, Elm Road. I have seen the plans for the development which do not make good reading for residents in the area. I am interested to hear from anyone who might be affected by this proposal. David Reynolds 01367 243663.
Thames Water Treatment Works - 17/11/04 Thames Water have agreed to review their plans - but the case is not yet won - more letters are needed. Send them to Tim Fane at northfieldfarm@btinternet.com See letter from OCC to Thames Water
Road works in London St - 11/11/04 Businesses in London St were given notice yesterday 10/11 that roadworks( power company) were to take place from Monday next until nearly Christmas. As you can imagine this caused them great concern - trade in this busiest period of the year would be seriously reduced. Many people leapt into action - Judith Heathcoat(County Councillor), Faringdon Town Council, Chamber of Commerce and it now appears that the works will be put back until the New Year Good News!! Gene Webb Action information from Judith Heathcoat
Thames Water - Review of Sewage plans- 10/11/04 John Sexton MD of Thames Water has written to Faringdon Alternative Energy Group(FAEG) saying "Our proposals have prompted a significant number of representations from the local community and I appreciate the concerns that have been raised. I have, therefore, asked the project team to carry out a further review of the options available to us enabling compliance with the regulations for sludge recycling, which come into force next year. Obviously I cannot prejudge the outcome of this review and it may be that Faringdon remains the better option. However, I can assure you that the review will be objective and take full account of the concerns that have been raised with us. The review will be complete by the end of this year and I propose that we meet again early in the new year. In the meantime, I have asked the team to continue to meet with local interest groups to ensure we fully understand the local concerns." Tim Fane FAEG See comment See response to letter
Yet another takeaway- 7/11/04 I was browsing the proposed Planning Applications submitted to VWDC on 31st October 2004 and was shocked to see the plans to convert the old book shop to a takeaway outlet. Do other readers think Faringdon is in need of yet another pizza/kebab house. Personally, I think it would be more appropriate to introduce perhaps a clothes shop, after all where can you even buy a pair of knickers???? Karen. (Resident in Faringdon for best part of 40 years!) Ed Won't help the traffic problem in Marlborough St either!
Reply to Jim's latest - 7/11/04 "There are more things in heaven and earth, Jimmy, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (With apologies to Hamlet Act 1 Scene 5) Belated Christmas Presents Jim Horton's idea made me laugh but when I went to bed I had a rather silly dream inspired by what he'd said. I dreamt I had a visit from the Aliens on the Hill I don't know why they picked on me…..I guess I never will. The tallest one was standing there with a towel on his head His outfit was a stylish sheet..with stripes of blue and red. He had the others with him they were a motley lot I thought "They're Carol Singers" but then I thought " They're not" Their leader told me they had come..'from a world afar'. What brought them here to Faringdon?…They mentioned Pete White's Star. They'd come to us with presents. At least they said they were. The Gold was very welcome.. but what is Frankincense ?.. and Myrrh ? I told them their computer had got their route quite wrong I wished them Merry Christmas and said now please get along I also said " You're miles off track and sorry to relate The place you want is Bethlehem and you're two thousand years too late". HGM
Paddy Wagon to Kosovo - 6/11/04 Hope and Aid Direct, an all-volunteer organisation, (Registered Charity No 1077146) motto "We take Aid NOT sides" has been taking aid to the Balkans for some years now. The Hope and Aid convoys of Humanitarian Aid started going to the Balkans soon after the civil wars that ravaged the country and split the population, ruining lives, and dividing the population along ethnic fault lines. Refugees and Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) poured from one region into another as the increasing violence polarised the population. Hope and Aid Direct has been regularly, twice yearly Easter and early Autumn, travelling from the UK mainly in 38 and 7.5 tonne trucks taking Humanitarian Aid in the form of supplies and practical help to the refugees and IDPs. This Autumn's convoy, the seventh to Kosovo since 2000, consisted of two 38 tonne articulated lorries, seven 7.5 tonne trucks and one jumbo transit. One of the 7.5 tonne trucks, 'Paddy Wagon' named after Jack Curran (Devizes) and yours truly (yes you've guessed it TWO Paddies) joined the convoy and both of us travelled to Kosovo for the first time . Frank Callanan Read much more about the trip
When Harry met Slurry....- 6/11/04 Harry, and other friends of the statues, I have come up with a fantastic idea. Would it be possible do you think, that as Christmas is coming, could we turn the statues into a nativity scene, of course a wood like stable would have to be put up, cheaply done in plastic, covered in real sawdust for the affect, and with Pete Whites folly star angled to shine over head I think it would be a fantastic sight. To add more realism, a few sewerage lorries going by to add that authentic "stable smell" I think people would come from miles around, possibly even be on Central news, oh the possibilities are endless,. Perhaps you all could think of ways to theme them for Spring, Summer( people dancing naked would be good for me) and Autumn. I commend this idea to the house.............. Jim Horton
Let's look on the bright side - 2/11/04 It seems a shame that the Folly statues are receiving so much adverse comment. It is obvious that their fame is spreading and already we have news that they have aroused interest as far afield as Stanford in the Vale. Not only did our welcome visitor stress the good points of the Folly Park but she has expressed an interest in our Farmers' Market and in bringing her 2 year old with her she may be ensuring the future of this facility as long as we are able to provide the correct 'choccys'. There was also an apocryphal story that a group of Priests from Lourdes wanted to become our Twin Town until they found that they were holey and not Holy statues...An easy mistake to make. As to the sludge lorries...Ok, so multiple thousands of people have made it clear that we don't think their dangerous and smelly passage through our roads are a welcome addition to the delights of Faringdon. But to be fair there are thousands more who think it is a great idea... for example the residents of Wantage 10,000, Abingdon 34,000 and Witney 17,000....that's an awful lot of support.....and sewage Harry Mitchell
Thames Water- 2/11/04 I have just returned from County Hall having started there at 0730 this morning. I write to advise that my motion (below), was passed nem com! Thames Water did have representation in the gallery. I look forward now to meeting Mr Sexton, Director of Thames Water on Friday 5 November. Judith Heathcoat (C/Cllr. Faringdon Division) This Council urges Thames Water to defer the commencement of the upgrading of the treatment plant at Faringdon until further investigations have been made into the environmental impact the expansion will have on the town and surrounding area and the economic feasibility of enlarging local treatment plants to take local sewage. The environmental study must take particular note of the odour emanating from the plant and the effect this will have on a town where SEEDA and the County have invested heavily. The study must also examine the high level of traffic movements in a residential area, and an area where traffic calming measures are being sought. The traffic routes proposed are in a closely populated area passing a primary school out onto a rural road. The study must also reflect the damage that would occur from pollution which, in turn, will affect disastrously the livelihood of organic farmers in the close proximity of this plant
Faringdon Sewage Treatment Works- 1/11/04 Apologies for the delay in posting this update. First, the official number of signatures on the Petition was a massive 2,477. This was way ahead of our original target and goes to show the strength of the town's opposition to the Thames Water proposals. The signatures were collected in just one week and included significant numbers from local villages and Lechlade....thanks to all concerned. Late arrivals have recently increased the total to 2,601. We also received 80 individual letters to John Sexton, the managing director of Thames Water. Several letters were from children the youngest being just 4 years old...many thanks to all who wrote. The Petition, the letters, a copy of our alternative proposals and a covering letter were placed in a dozen smart folders and sent to various "influential" individuals including John Sexton, the local MP's, Margaret Beckett, DEFRA and others. The front of each file contained a colour photo of the field of poppies with the Folly in the background. During the past few weeks we have met up with the Shadow Minister for the Environment, arranged a meeting due to be held within the next week with John Sexton, MD of Thames Water, arranged a slot on Radio Oxford (due next Wednesday 10th November). We will shortly also be presenting to the full meeting of the Oxfordshire County Council in support of a motion to urge Thames Water to delay their proposal pending a review of the environmental implications. The VWH council has already carried a motion to ban sewage lorries from passing through Faringdon. Lawyers representing the Faringdon House Estate are also looking at the legality of TW's use of the access road to the Faringdon STW. Thames Water regrettably still have the Law on their side in so far as their proposal is deemed to be a permitted development. It may be that none of the above actions in isolation will succeed in stopping them but the more legitimate obstacles that we can throw in their direction , the better. Predictably, TW's initial reply to the Alternative Energy Group's proposal was not encouraging but it was flawed in many respects and indicates that the company really has very little idea of the local issues. We believe most strongly that we have won the moral argument and presented TW with a viable and soundly based alternative but we need to keep applying pressure, and more media coverage is needed. All ideas and offers of help are most welcome Daniel Bell
Folly Park - 1/11/04 I have been recently using the folly park. I take my 2 yr old for a walk there regularly. It needs a better much better sign post for one, only spotted it by accident and seeing it on this website. The statues whilst a little odd are defiantly different. "what are they meant to be anyway?" We were looking at them the other day. I thought they were carved stone...they are not- they seem to be cast of some sort of plastic with sand stuck to the outside. I don't think who ever made them took into account the weather on the hill, bits of the sand coating are falling off and you can see the plastic underneath...in a few yrs time it will be gone and they will probably look awful. That aside the park is very nice, I think. We have been there several times, as the paths are not muddy, the amount of birds we have seen and heard is great, even on a cold, but sunny day at the end of October. Shame the dog pooh bin was overflowing, but at least people are bothering to put it in it, or by it. We come from Stanford by the way. We haven't been to Faringdon much recently, but nice to see the square has been "tarted up" looks much nicer. Also enjoyed the saddlers lunch. My little boy specially likes the choccys they sell. Now we have been there will be using the local shops a bit more often.We are going to see what the local farmers market is like this week. Angela Vickery

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