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Faringdon Town Football Club - 30/04/09 Faringdon Town Football Club are playing in the final of the North Berks Charity Shield, 7.00pm Saturday 2nd May 2009 at Abingdon Utd, Northcourt Road, Abingdon against Saxton Rovers. Come and support the team! Martin Harries

Nursery Rhyme Decorations - 30/04/09 I'm interested to find out more about the celebrated nursery rhyme decorations (Dr Foster and Four and Twenty Blackbirds) on two of the town's houses (eg. who put them up and when, what they're made of, and so on). Does anyone have further information they can give me? Glyn Duggan

No toffees on the NHS - 28/04/09 Re Health Service - how right you are, name supplied. Certainly no toffees with the modern NHS In a nearby practice, (not Faringdon) not so very long ago, community nurses actually refused to visit a terminally ill patient - a friend of mine with no family, who lived alone - over a weekend, because when they visited him on his return from hospital (on a Thursday) - I quote - "he was burning a joss stick and it was just too much". Over the next week the patient in question was refused any pain relief at all - due to a "failure in communication" A message was sent after a couple of days from one of the GPs at his surgery that he could have "two paracetamol". On the morning of the day he died he begged for a bath. Visiting nurses refused, even though I had already prepared the bath, laughing as they said "we don't have time for that kind of thing". Later the same day I requested a home visit by his GP - I wont describe the unpleasant circs but sufficient to say that he was in the very terminal stages of liver cancer. I was told by the surgery receptionist that "We don't allow home visits unless they are specifically requested by the patient" After my insistence and visit to the surgery a doctor visited, but refused to give the patient any pain relief on the grounds that "I'm sending him into hospital, so I can't give him any pain relief" The ambulance arrived some three hours after the doctor's visit, and the patient died later that evening. The ambulance crew were cheerful and considerate, as were the hospital staff. I followed the patient to hospital, to be asked on my arrival by the staff there what was wrong with the patient as the GP's note "was very sketchy". I was appalled by the the sheer lack of kindness or consideration for this dying man; and by the arrogance and disregard with which I as his carer, albeit in an unofficial capacity, was treated by his GP surgery. Whatever frustrations or dissatisfaction the surgery personnel may have had with their roles vis a vis the health authority, government, bureaucracy etc was NO excuse. I cared for and attended the patient daily throughout this period. I carefully and accurately documented the episode, and yes, I did make a formal complaint; first to the GP surgery, to receive a dismissive and inadequate response; then to the Swindon Primary Care Trust. I asked for nothing more than an explanation and apology. After about nine months of obfuscation, and delaying tactics on their part, I gave up. No doubt I am one of their complainants whose case was 'satisfactorily settled'. I hasten to repeat that this in no way reflects upon or applies to our Faringdon health centre, whose staff, despite the perceived inadequacies of the system (over which they have little control), as far as I am concerned have always been considerate and helpful. name supplied

Health Centre Reference - 28/04/09 the recent posting about the Health Centre from the person who gets a toffee with her flu jab. Unfortunately this person suffers from an illusion because the local GPs and nurses wont be there for him/her in an emergency after 6pm or at weekends. Unfortunately, the 'old fashioned' days are long gone when our GPs would run a local casualty service and see patients at weekends. Patients now have to rely on the out of hours service when they'll probably be asked to go to Witney or Abingdon. Have you ever tried to get your local GP or nurse to visit you in Faringdon at weekends? Have you also tried the new 'non old-fashioned' robotic answering system to make an appointment during opening hours? Is there an option to over-ride this in an emergency? Luckily, there is still an option to talk to a human. name supplied

Faringdon Artistic Skaters - 27/04/09 results of youth Championships Youth ladies Figures British Champion. Hollie Fidler, 2nd Georgina Howe Youth Ladies Free Skating Championships. 3rd Georgina Howe Combined Championships. 2nd Georgina Howe Youth Mens Figure Competition. 1st Ben Tinbrell Youth mens Free Skating Championships . 2nd Ben Timbrell Combined mens Competition.1st Ben Timbrell Congratulations to them all in their first year as Youth Dee England

Peace Group Event 2- 26/04/09 l agree with Councillor Alan Hickmore that the Peace Event was superb - the speakers, the audience participation and the extremely efficient organisation. It was a privilege to hear Tony Benn whose wisdom and experience must be unsurpassed. Many congratulations and thanks to all those who organised the day. In the evening the auction at the Crown for the benefit of MacMillan nurses was an enjoyable event and raised generous funds. It just shows what Faringdon can do ! Margaret Barker Deputy Mayor

Peace Group Event - 26/04/09 Just a quick note to thank the Peace Group for a stimulating and valuable meeting in the Corn Exchange today. The subject was civil rights and how they are being eroded in our modern society. The key note speaker was Tony Benn who was, as always, inspirational. But all the speakers, both from the platform and the floor, were excellent as was the message they were giving. The Peace Group organised the meeting brilliantly and I for one came away inspired. Thank you very much. (PS A thank you as well to Al Cane who organised the PA system. This is not easy in the Corn Exchange with its difficult acoustics - but every body could hear and take part) Alan Hickmore

Health Centre - 24/04/09 Thank goodness for Faringdon's old fashioned Health Centre ! I am a regular visitor to our Health Centre. Every year I go and a friendly nurse who has obviously been looking forward to my visit gives me a Flu jab and a toffee. The staff are always friendly, sympathetic, helpful and reassuring. But more importantly I know that should an emergency arise they will be there for me ! That's what I mean by "old fashioned" Unfortunately for my daughter she lives in West Swindon where the attitude reflects the "Modern" approach to medecine which is that it would be a good job if it wasn't for the patients. Yesterday she needed some urgent treatment (I won't give you the gory details.) She telephoned to make an appointment but was told she would have to call again this morning. She got an appointment and the doctor told her that she needed the immediate attention of a nurse. Unfortunatel the nurse was too busy so my daughter, who is seriously disabled had to take a taxi to a pharmacy to get the dressings she needed. Now that's what is known as Modern Nursing Am I bitter ? Of course I am because I know, from past experience, that any complaint will only result in worse treatment. name supplied

M.A.D.D. MayFest. - 24/04/09 Curtain Call, youth theatre group will be performing "Purple" a play by Jon Fosse, instead of fortescue Phantoms on sunday 8pm. sam prince

Faringdon Arts Festival 2009 - 24/04/09 Well the Preparations are well underway Be Sure to check out the NEW Website for what is going on this year and for any information you should need www.faringdonartsfestival.co.uk We are still looking for more volunteers to help with the Marshalling we are also looking for more Comedians (yes i know faringdon is full of em) Speciality Acts Poets you can now e mail us at info@faringdonartsfestival.co.uk Scott Gildert

Pregnant or New Mother? (or new dad) - 23/04/09 A group of local women, variously from NCT groups, post natal groups etc. started collecting tips or comments or answers to questions most relevant to them when they were either pregnant or a new parent. This resulting text is growing all the time and we have vague plans to develop it as a small book for local families of children under age 1, who might benefit with the aim of raising funds for local groups such as The Family Centre or maybe even set up a small trust for local babies in need. If you'd like to get involved, can you please drop an email to garthpool@btinternet.com and we'll add you to our mailing list. Please let us know your current situation, i.e. pregnant, new mother etc. and we'll send you a regular question which we'd appreciate an honest answer to. Sample questions have been "What item of maternity clothing can you not live without?"; "What shocked/surprised you most about giving birth", "Best piece of advice you were given about labour". We see this as a real opportunity to provide real answers to real questions at a very confusing, exhilarating and unique(to you anyway)time. if you'd like to help, please contact us as below. Many thanks Mel

Your views wanted - Urgent 999 ambulance calls - 22/4/09 The primary care trust (PCT)and our ambulance service (SCAS) are looking at ways to improve the service of attending urgent ambulance calls to getting patients seen in A&E. There are a number of factors - the initial call handling/triage, the location of the nearest ambulance, speed of admission to A&E and making the ambulance ready for another call- all affect how well the ambulance service performs. The national target to achieve 75% calls in 8 minutes is not achieved in Faringdon. The figures show that on average they are achieved about 47% of the time- however this achievemnt is largely through our wonderful VOLUNTEER local responders. They achieve the 8 minute target for almost every call they are asked to make - but they are not allowed to cover all types of emergency. They're called out for urgent situations when someone is not breathing, heart attack and the like Please do write to this site with any views or experiences you have had about any aspect of the health service- where it hasn't been as good as you would wish, and where it has. Full confidentiality is assured. The aim is to give the PCT information on real experiences to help them improve the services to Faringdon In all Health matters - GP and Dental services as well as transport to hospitals, local intermediate care beds (as at Witney hospital) your views are needed. Have a look at the online survey on the makesachange website The FAP Health group and myself through the Links Stewardship Group are trying very hard to raise Faringdon's profile in all areas of the Health service. But your views are needed. We need to make a bit of noise in order to be heard! Thanks Gene Webb

Get a grip? - 21/4/09 Having been given some vouchers by my children for Mothers Day for Therapies at Get a Grip on Coxwell Road, I haven't been able to get anyone to answer the phone and it always seems to be shut when I go passed. Does anyone know what's happened? Thanks.

Bands at the Crown 25th - 20/4/09 Hi, just a quick plug for a charity event happening at the old crown this saturday the 25th. It is a fund-raiser for Macmillan cancer support and features 2 live bands...Subway and Aftershock and lots of other fun and games including an aucion. Only £3 entry so please come and help us raise lots of money :) Name Supplied

Spy camera- 18/4/09 They were put there to help motorists avoid congestion hotspots.. http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/4065681.50_cameras_to_ease_city_jams/ Charlie

Spy camera - 17/4/09 I believe it is one of the automated number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras designed to catch those who don't have tax etc- porblem is they probably haven't registered their vehicle with DVLA anyway. Its been there for a few months now. Lorraine

Spy camera - 17/4/09 In answer to Bob's question. People may want to have a read of http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/4065681.50_cameras_to_ease_city_jams/ which explains what the cameras are for. They may also want to read http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7964411.stm for details of what they could be used for... David Poultney

Internet provider? - 17/4/09 Many thanks for your advice, Sheila. I don't use O2 mobile phone but I have heard good things abot their broadband service. I have setup a blog at http://blog.thehappycomputercompany.co.uk where other people can share their experience of their broadband provider. Name Supplied

Spy camera - 16/4/09 What is the purpose of the camera on the A420/ Stanford-Wantage road roundabout? How long has it been there? Who is keeping an eye on us? Camera is situated on a pole just on the Oxford side of the roundabout. Whats it for? Bob

Open Stage - Madd May Fest - 16/4/09 Performers wishing to appear on the open stage at the corn exchange on Monday afternoon please contact Sam or Hilary on 01367243806 or visit www.maddfaringdon.co.uk THE M.A.D.D. MayFest

2nd anniversary for Health Walkers - 16/4/09 40 people celebrated the 2nd anniversary of Health Walking in Faringdon on Wednesday 15th. With kind permission of Sofka Zinovieff, owner of Faringdon House, we walked in the grounds, around the lake and through the gardens. A real privilege, and most enjoyable Gene Webb Anyone wanting to join the regular walks, we leave from outside the Bell at 10.30. Arrive by 10.20 if you're new. More info about the Health walk scheme on the walking pages of this website

Auditions for Treasure Island the Musical - 16/4/09 Dont forget Auditions for Treasure Island the Musical This Sunday the 19th April at the Old Crown Sports Bar Registration 12pm till 1pm Auditions Commence 1pm till 4pm Missed this Sundays Auditions Actors Singers Dancers Can still Audition Next Sunday 26th April At The Old Crown Sports Bar Registration 12pm Auditions Commence 1pm till 4pm We are Still Looking for a Keyboard Player a Drummer and Guitarists. If your between 10 and 17 and can play these intstruments then come along on Sunday the 26th April at the above times Drummers there will be Drums at the venue Scott Gildert

Internet provider? - 16/4/09 Zen has just been knocked off the Which? Best Buy top spot by O2 with better value for money - especially if you use O2 mobile phone. Sheila

Faringdon Folly on BBC Radio Oxford Breakfast Show - 15/4/09 Tomorrow morning (Thurs morning April 16, 2009) there will be a live Interview on BBC Radio Oxford Breakfast Show around 8:30am. The Interview will be with Eddie Williams and/or myself about the Faringdon Folly Tower. So turn your Radio on and tune to BBC Radio Oxford (95.2FM) and listen. Raoul Van Eyndhoven

I Thought I Heard A Rustling - A comedy by Alan Plater Director: Gary Field Thurs 21, Fri 22, Sat 23 May 2009 Faringdon Junior School, Gloucester Street, Faringdon I Thought I Heard A Rustling - An ex-miner turned poet is appointed writer-in-residence at Eastwood branch library. However, the senior librarian soon realises the feckless but charming Geordie is no poet. Despite this she finds him highly entertaining, much to the disgust of an earnest young man who covets the writer-in-residence role. These three find themselves in an unlikely alliance when the Libraries sub-committee proposes demolishing the library. Fiona Merrick

Well done to the Templars for their performance in the N.B.T. - 14/4/09 As the original poster, I'd just like to say well done to local band, Templars, for being shortlisted for Jack FM's Next Big Thing competition. Unfortunately, we found out today they didn't make it through to the last 5. Chin up guys, keep the music going. Rachel

Anyone want VHS tapes? - 14/4/09 If the charity shops do not want them then gardeners can use the tape as plant ties or bird wind scarers. Try the allotments, maybe? Name Supplied

Best Internet provider? - 14/4/09 I have been with my internet provider (zen Internet) for over 6 six years. I have had a flawless service with great customer support. Now I would like to change to another provider. I am looking for recommendations really. What are popular internet providers that the population of Faringdon are currently with? I am thinking about BT or TalkTalk or something else... Any others???? Name Supplied

Anyone want VHS tapes? - 13/4/09 does anybody out there know what to do with about 150 or so vhs videos. feature films, television, sport etc other than taking them to the tip is there any charity that would like them. Name Supplied

M.A.D.D. MAYFEST. Friday, Sunday and Monday are FREE EVENTS.- 11/4/09 Sam Prince

Friendly dog walk? - 11/4/09 My friendly dog and I are looking for people and dogs to go walking with - ideally on Saturdays, for short walks around Folly Park. If you're interested in making new human and canine friends, please contact me at annaw1677@hotmail.com Anna Williams

Street Clutter - 11/4/09 There is also a new one outside Saffron in Coxwell St. It severely reduces the width of the pavement and makes it difficult for wider mobility vehicles and twin buggies to get past. Jane Boulton

Buses and Skate Park - 11/4/09. I really understand your frustrations. Things were the same 10 years ago when my son wanted a) a Saturday job in Swindon & b) to go skateboarding. He was in fact on one of the first consultative committees for the Skate Park. 1. The building of the Bloor Homes estate means that Stagecoach will upgrade the route between Swindon & Oxford to a premium route which will result in a much greater frequency of buses. 2. Bloor Homes are also required to put down the base for the Skate Park as part of their S106 agreement, so this should happen this year. Jane Boulton

Street Clutter - 10/4/09 I thought there was a move to reduce street signage- in some places anyway. I'm trying to understand why the Council (County?) gave permission for the bus company to erect a new bus stop sign at the top of Marlborough St. It is about 1m from the old one - that served as a bus stop sign and a school crossing warning. Whyever is it needed? Name Supplied

Music at the Crown - 10/4/09 Great Tamla Motown music from Al Cane last Saturday. How about a 60's night? TOG

Budgens - 10/4/09 Oh and one more thing: I just read some of the comments posted in February and, to all those who left complaints about Budgens staff, we are not all rude and unhelpful! Perhaps you could take up your complaints about individual employees with the managers, rather than whining about them anonymously on 'talking points' where no one can do anything to help you. Don't taint us all with the same brush, and don't you DARE assume it is always the younger staff. There is a reason why young people in Faringdon are dissatisfied and unhappy. It's that people like you lump them all into the same pile and assume they're all destructive, anti-social misfits. Kate

Lost pedometer? - 10/4/09 Has anyone lost a pedometer in the field around the folly if so please contact me on 07979726359 giving make and colour Name Supplied

Buses and Skate Park - 10/4/09 I have two points to make: 1. The bus service between Swindon and Oxford is appalling. It doesn't go often enough, is always late, and only has two night time services, at 7pm and 10.40pm. Now, I don't know about anyone else, but I rarely have reason to go into Oxford at either of these times. No bars or clubs open before 8.30pm, and by the time 11.30 rolls around, it's too late to get into these places cheaply. If the bus company run just a few more services at 8pm and 9pm, and perhaps on till midnight or 1am on Friday and Saturday nights, they would find they had far more customers. Faringdon is already a difficult place for teenagers and young adults to live, because there is rarely anything going on that we can become involved in, and having a rubbish bus service to the places that actually do cater for this age group just makes it all the more bleak. One thing that people aged between say, 18 and 25 like to do, is go out to bars and clubs at night. Surely it would be in Stagecoach's best interests to run services at the times when a large majority of people want them? I realise this is a matter to take up with the bus company, but if there are other people out there who feel the same way, it would be helpful if they too would write a letter to Stagecoach, asking them to help us. It's not just young people either; my dad said if there was a service up to midnight or 1am, he would gladly use to to get back from dinner parties/shows/gigs/the pub! 2. I read a post written by Chris Langlay-Smith, in which he asked about the long-awaited, mythical skatepark. I think the fact that the hard-earned cash raised by the youth of Faringdon in order for a skatepark to be built, was taken and put into the CHRISTMAS LIGHTS rather than the intended purpose, is absolutely disgusting. There are a lot of skaters in Faringdon. They need somewhere to go. Hell, ALL the young people need somewhere to go. My friend, Sophie Cave and I had been trying to campaign for better youth facilities for a while and were elected members of the Faringdon venues committee before we had to leave for university. Chris, if I may speak directly, you would be an ideal candidate to take over this responsibility in our place. I'm not sure if the committee has elected new members yet or not, but I can certainly put you in contact with the secretary if you want! It sounds like you really are passionate about persuing facilities for people of your age group. Thanks! Kate Harrison

Shabby Town Hall - 10/4/09 Looking at the Old Town Hall today I really think that the outside walls could do with a smartening up and a fresh coat of paint. It's looking decidely shabby. Doesn't the focal point of the Market Place and the town deserve a little better? I know it's a War Memorial, which deserves respect. Can the Town Council and War Memorial Trust consider this. Fred the Paint

Tariff Check. - 9/4/09 Had a phone call this week from someone who wanted to do a tariff check and then today a man in a really bright orange coat wanted to do the same thing. Is Faringdon a "scam" town or something? Why cant I check the tariff out using the tinterweb? Me thinks something smells Bob

Faringdon Twinning Association - 8/4/09 Sunday 5th July to Saturday 11th July A group of French children from our twin town of Le Mele in Normandy will visit Faringdon (age 12+). Sunday 19th July to Saturday 25th July. A group of Faringdon children will visit Le Mele (age 12+). If you are interested in hosting 1 or 2 French children and then your children returning to Le Mele then please do contact me as soon as possible. This is an excellent opportunity for your children to improve their own French and make new friends. We are also looking for 2 Leaders aged 18+ to lead the group to Le Mele. All travel and accommodation will be paid for. Great experience for confident people who can speak French and want to develop their Leadership Skills. If you know of anyone interested then please ask them to get in touch. Many thanks Carolyn Murphy 01367 240698, 07798 468 532 cmm1046@kingalfreds.oxon.sch

Skate Park - 8/4/09 chris langlay-smith I note and understand your comments. Can we get together to talk more? Nick Elwell, Bordengate

Re loss of tv channels on digital and sky- 6/4/09 We lost a couple of channels on our tv and when I phoned up about it I was told to simply unplug the digibox and leave it unplugged for 3 - 4 minutes then plug it back in again and it should re-set itself. Hope this helps. Fiona Merrick

Joint Environmental Trust meeting notes - 6/4/09 Informal notes Lechlade Road Gateway. All tenders received are over budget, so the planting of the tree has been removed until a later date. The committee gave the go ahead for the work to start. Planters around the town. Locations for these cast iron planters have been suggested and Market traders have been consulted. Oxfordshire County Council highways dept have to agree to these locations.. FTC will maintain the planters. Town Park enhancement, Autumn 2009 Scheme is being prepared and will be ready for the meeting in June. Restoration of tomb stones in All Saints Churchyard A survey has been carried out. Stones needing immediate attention have been identified, and those within next 5 years. The estimated costs are considerable. JET agreed that a grant would be sought, and when money was available the work would be put out to tender. Folly woodland grant It was agreed to award a grant of £500 towards maintenance of the Folly woodland circumference, subject to a 3rd quote to be supplied, and input from VWHDC planning officer Gene Webb

Ploughing practise - 3/4/09 I am looking for a field close to Faringdon suitable for ploughing practice. This is for a 1956 Massey Ferguson and conventional plough. It is late in the year but, any offers will be gratefully accepted; as will any on site advice. Please call Faringdon 01367-244101 if you can help, many thanks. Pat Hayton

Pharmacy - late opening - 3/4/09 Earlier this week I visited the new(ish) pharmacy on London St. Friendly, knowledgeable, helpful staff; reasonable range of products; competitive prices AND at 10.30 at night. Some of the more established businesses could learn a thing or two.......... Lets hope this is a sign of things to come! Name Supplied

Skate Park - 2/4/09 I am being constantly re-assured by residents of faringdon, members of the council and even the police that everything in their power is being done to gain a skate park to the town of faringdon. However, after fundraising for the past 13 years, the committee for a skatepark has seen no rewards for its incredibly hard efforts. im sure everyone involved is with me when i say i want an explanation for why our efforts have seemed to go unnoticed. for those in the dark, faringdon council; promised us a skatepark over 10 years ago, spent saved money on christmas lights that we didnt even need, denied every locations we put forward, ignored our attempts to get grants from the mayor. A few weeks ago, i got a warning from the police for skating in faringdon. they told me my actions were unacceptable. however, i find the complaint made to be unacceptable. think of a youth facility in faringdon besides a normal park. cant be done. Finally a concluding question, why has it been so long? chris langlay-smith

Digital TV Channels- 2/4/09 We had something similar happen with an old digibox. We found the missing channels had moved to 800+. It might be worth looking to see if the channels are there - apparently it's something some older boxes do. Name Supplied

Re Folly light - 2/4/09 How about Marks and Spencer instead of Tesco lets face it there is no where that local to purchase undies. Internet shopper

Digital TV Channels - 1/4/09 Is anybody else having problems ?. We have lost quite a few channels on two tv's. One is a digital tv, the other has a digi box but both have lost things like Sky News, Channel 5, BBC3 etc. I've tried retuning but that doesn't help. I have a friend in Banbury who has also lost a few but that could just be a coincidence. Just wondering if anybody else in Faringdon is having problems. Thank you. Name Supplied

Skaters - 1/4/09 To Scott and anyone else wondering what the heck is going on about the posting on the skating Little did my husband or I imagine when we posted about our daughter's acheivements at the weekend that members of her former skating club would use this forum to attack an eight-year-old girl. Some people really need to sort their priorities out. If you read my husband's first post carefully, we never claimed she was a champion, only that she won three gold medals which is true. We also never said she *had* been selected to skate internationally, only that she could be. Usually the three top placed skaters go to the Cup of Europe which is in October (so we did make a mistake there but really what a fuss to make over getting it wrong by one month). So apologies to those of you who are bored with this topic. I don't intend to post on this matter again and hope that others will also let it drop. Katrina Campbell

Re Folly lighthouse - 30/3/09 I agree with name supplied on the lighthouse comment. It would be nice to see it again. Fiona Merrick

Re Idea for Folly light - 30/3/09 I think a massive revolving Tesco sign would look great at the top of the Folly" Actually, wouldn't that be a great April Fool's joke! Just think of all the cars driving into Faringdon looking for a new Tesco - imagine their faces when they were driving round and round looking for it! Hilarious! A Twisted Sister

Folly not in sight - 1/4/09 Cant see the folly anymore due to the massive ugly. 420@ business and folly park houses sign blocking the wonderful view of great folly. Maybe we could put that in the wickelsham quarry the sign that is,not the folly. an other

Vale of White Horse Sporting Achievements Awards across the vale - 1/4/09 These awards made by Chairman of District Council In recongnition of dedication and Commitment to skaters Dee England Steve England In recognition of amazing achievements and dedication. Representing Great Britain in the European Championships 2008 - Ben Timbrell - Hollie Fidler - Georgina Howe Congratulation to All Name Supplied

Seconding the "lighthouse" suggestion - 1/4/09 I too would love it if we could have the lighthouse back again. I loved coming back from work that year as the lighthouse was visible from a long out from Faringdon. I seem to remember that it needed special permission from the RAF though, as we are very close to Brize Norton. I wonder if they'd be so obliging again. Name Supplied

Just to Put an End to the Skating Arguement - 1/4/09 I got this Information from the FEDERATION OF ARTISTIC SKATERS if you would like to look at the last line there is one entry for November and it is in Germany INTERNATIONAL DIARY FOR 2009 2/5 April CEPA International Seminar Misano Italy 25/26 April Cup of Italy "Memorial Fabio Barbieri" (Pairs) Bologna / Italy 22/24 May Pieris Trophy (Solo Dance) Nr. Trieste / Italy 20-23 May German Cup Freiburg / Germany 30 April/May2 Precision/Show European Championships Reggio Emilia / Italy 7/13 June Memorial G.Filippini Trophy (Free/Inline/Dance Couples) Misano / Italy 19/20 June Amphora Trophy (Free Skating) Pula / Croatia 3/5 July Prestige International (Free/Inline/Dance Couples) Iss les Moulineaux / Paris, Fr 24/29 August Cadet/Youth European Championships Eaubonne (Nr. Paris) / France 14/19 September Junior/Senior European Championships Nazare / Portugal 7/10 October Cup of Europe Luso (Porto) / Portugal 16/18 October Cup of Italy (Singles) TBA / Italy 22/24 October Hettange Dance France 8/22 November World Artistic Championships Freiburg / Germany Scott Gildert

Blimey - - 1/4/09 Just checked out the TP for the first time in quite a few weeks and Cor Blimey people moaning about Lights on the Folly and now its TUTU's at Dawn over some Roller Skating. what is TP coming to and also it's no Good doing Name Supplied when having a go at someone after putting your name to a previous post as if you do actually read the previous posts it is not hard to work out who the comments are from Scott Gildert

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