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Halloween - 31/10/10

Well, there seem to be lots of Ghosts, Skeletons, Witches, Gouls, Spiders and other terrible things out tonight. Maybe they will all gang together and drive the Monkeys out of Faringdon!!!!!!!!!
Chris Higgs
Hoping Tesco will appeal- 31/10/10

On reading the comments on Waitrose/Tesco's/Budgens with I may say a wry smile, I would like to make a few points:
Re. Invisible people not having a say, you DO have a say , attend your town council planning meetings, and as for those 3 District councillors, Barber, Cox, and Thompson who voted against the wishes of the Town Council and the majority of Faringdon residents, use your votes at the next District Council elections and kick these people out!

I hope Tesco's does appeal this decision just who the hell are the Disrict Councillors most of whom don't live or shop in our town to remove from us the residents of this town, the choice of where to shop? OK we do have a choice and all the surveys show that 74% of us use it to do to our main food shopping OUT OF TOWN. This will continue and escalate until and unless we get a decent supermarket here that has the range of goods, the quality and the prices to attract our custom.
As to the District Councillors prefered plan for Waitrose (or any other supermarket) to be situated off Gloucester Street just what planet are they living on? OK we know they don't live in or visit Faringdon but what imbecile thought up a plan that involves not just delivery lorries but one assumes hundreds of shopper cars making daily trips down Gloucester Street to get to the store ?
Almost certainly if this ludicrous plan goes ahead the residents of Gloucester Street will have to give up their on street parking arrangements, and just imagine the chaos when the Waitrose lorries attempt to exit Gloucester Street and find the Budgens lorries with or without some thoughtless parkers have blocked the only exit road.
Good move VWHDC...........NOT !!!!
Name Supplied
Great Firework display - 31/10/10

GREAT firework display at Faringdon House but just one thing spoiled it...the music. Leave the music out next year.
Firework night is all about the noise - it makes firework night what it should be. The music drowned out most of the bangs and I have to say sounded awful through the tannoy.

Wonder what others think? Maybe a voting system should be set up for the spectators to choose. Thinking about it maybe we should do the same for Tesco coming to Faringdon. After all isn't it about what the residents want and not the councillors?
Name Supplied
Faringdon is dead- 31/10/10

I have just seen the picture in the Folly paper of faringdon market day i have counted roughly 10 people says it all don't it . Faringdon is a dead town it will take more than the kiss of life to bring it round wouldn't you say .Is it any wonder people shop out of Faringdon talk about a ghost town all we need are cactus then it would be something out of a western .
Iam old enough to remember the shops we did have you could get what ever you wanted not now .
Mrs Hammond
Super fast Broadband.- 31/10/10

Broadband Experience of the Peking - Paris Rally revealed that Mongolia, Gobi Desert, most of the 'Stans etc are now served by mobile digital signals better in coverage than Wales or the Lake District. The locals use solar powered chargers and are now equiped to talk and trade with the world from the back of beyond, which they learn about from thier satelite TVs huddled in their yerts. No wires, no fibre optics and no local infrastructure over the masts built on mountain tops.

We are falling behind in the race to new technology which is really our main hope of a strong economy as we cannot compete against the cheap labour and lack of welfare law previlent in these developing countries. It should be a matter of national policy to either get total coverage of digital signals and/or the fastest national line links in the country to keep ahead of the game. Trouble is will wireless technology overtake fibre optics which cost a lot to put in negating the investment. I suspect they will. This is why we need to continue to invest in R and D etc rather than on whining non productive population centres who get regular media coverage.
Bit political but it is a sobering fact that these 'backward natives' are up with us in many ways. It will be us who will become the backwater unless we keep up.
Alan Hitchcock
Unwanted wood - 31/10/10

Unwanted bits of wood (pallet and crates for recently completed patio). Ideal for bonfire! Available to anyone who would like to collect it.
Sheila
protest- 31/10/10

I think we all should got to abingdon council with big banners and flags saying no to budgens and yes to tescos whos up for it
Name Supplied
Poor Faringdon- 31/10/10

Yes, we have lived here for 20 years and I have worked in Faringdon for nearly 30, and Faringdon had 'died' during the time we have known it! I remember Mortons, W H Smith's, Liddards, Mr White at the sweet shop and many more. Where are those type of shops now?

It's no good saying that if Tesco is allowed to come to Park road Faringdon will die, it has started to already! Where will all the new 44% growth of people go to shop? Not here that is certain.

Tesco or any other supermarket will only increase the number of paying customers for all types of shops in Faringdon. Did the people who voted against Tesco ask the local business people what most of them really wanted?

Poor Old Pretty Friendy Faringdon, it makes me so sad!!!!
Name Supplied
Answering a previous posting.- 30/10/10

Yes I would shop at Budgens if it was taken over by Aldi, or Sommerfields etc. But I also would shop at Budgens regularly if the prices and selection were better. I have lived in Faringdon for 33 years and I love it, but we make a huge saving by shopping out of town. But I do wish people would realise that the town is slowly dying anyway.

There is nowhere to buy cds, clothes, childrens and teenage birthday presents, shoes, inexpensive cards, the list goes on.
Does any one know what the plans are for our town centre, and how we can attract outlets like HMV, Superdrug, WH Smiths .
Is anyone trying to entice them here.

By the way I love the articles recently about the monkeys in the town
Jacqui Massey
Budgens. - 30/10/10

If we have to put up with Budgens, make it better for us. Drop your prices!
Colin
Super fast Broadband. - 3010/10

I see reading an article in the "Oxford Mail" that superfast fast broadband is coming to Oxford, Witney and Wantage. Reason is competition. As Faringdon is once again out on a limb we have to fight in this Infinity competition. Perhaps now our WHDC Councillors arent distracted by the Supermarket wars, they could instead put pressure on BT.
Faringdon gets Super duper broadband and the town will be fighting off firms wanting to come here.
Sorry, had a "senior moment" then.
Colin
Faringdon like Clochemerle? - 30/10/10

Does this discussion of shops remind anyone of Clochemerle?
Perhaps we could have a Pissoirs where the Millenium clock was to be to celibrate our twin town status with France. It could double up as the new Post Office counter to save time as well. The two new free carparking spaces created by removing the Gents in the carpark will transform businness solving all are problems. Has anyone thought of dying the local monkeys, Lord Berners style. That might make the place more attractive and American 'big game' hunters might pay to shoot the red ones instead of large dangerious man eating red deer on Exmoor. Indeed the stock of targets could be increased by mooring two small balloons on top of the Church tower and Folly. Traders might just get time to sell some Muslim related stock before the American hunters blaze away at anything remotely looking like a bin liner or tea towel.
This means the Co-Op can take over the JDS site expanding thier service and employ a few more folk, possibly failed shop workers accused of poor public relations since thier customers will not be greatly worried about that. All our local problems need is a cohesive plan to solve them.
Alan Hitchcock
Psychology tutor wanted - 30/10/10

Just wondering if anyone knows of a psychology a level and or english literature a level private tutor preferably in the faringdon area, greatly appreciated.
Thankyou.
Georgina Allen-Stevens
Sarcasm- 30/10/10

Dear Forum Bully, I heartily concur that the verbosity on TP has reached a new Nadir. No longer are we treated to tongue in cheek observations, catty comments and dare I say it witticisms. (Thank the lord for spell checker, anyone tried it lately?)
PS. The Gourds and Squash where wonderful!

Name and address withheld on this rare occasion!
Phew! - 30/10/10

The last Time I gently meandered through the postings on Talking Points, barely prepared me for the onslaught of the last few days.
From Monkey Hunting; (now there is an interesting conception, The Crown or Bell offering full board packages for safari style holidays in Faringdon), to the imfamouse (sic) Supermarket debate. Pop into this heady mix, the question of "What did the Romans do for us", "Tesco's are my only love" and "Whatever it is, I hate it!" And we have a new soap opera just waiting in the wings.

When we moved here, I said we would be gone in 4 years MAX.
25 years later and B****r! I am still here. Surprisingly, we as a couple actually like this Town (although I increasingly struggle with my reasoning). We like most of the people who live here, (we have a little book however, so be careful), and despite all the rhetoric to the contrary believe that this town could (should?) have a great future.
What needs to be addressed is that no small town can meet the individual needs of all it's inhabitants. Just because Budgens does not have the precise brand or product that YOU WANT NOW! Does not mean it is a bad outlet, what it means is that if there is no popular demand for a service or product, then you ain't going to get it. This will also apply to Tesco, Waitrose, or any other outlet.

So, what is the point of this rambling? I suppose the first point is to ask people to think, evaluate what they want and then understand the world isn't perfect.
The second is rather than just criticize, be constructive in your arguments to illustrate your point in a realistic way.

Third, stop hiding behind "Name and Address Supplied". If you cannot stand by your comments perhaps you should consider their merits.
Rant Over.

Mike Perks.
More on the tescos front - 30/10/10

I understand both sides of the debate.

But the big headache now is that if tescos dont get the go ahead for a store in park rd. Then all they will do is sit on the land not sell or rent it . Which inturn will lock up a huge employment area . The VWDC councilmay control many things but it cant stop tescos holding on to the land and living it empty .

So come on lets get some much needed jobs in the town.

I know the likes of our councillers would prefer waitrose . And I guess I would if I could afford a mega house in coxwell road .
Cheers
Name Supplied
Budgens. - 30/10/10

A big thankyou to the customers who have been supportive of the Budgens staff this week. Lots of encouraging words and praise has been greatly appreciated.
We work hard.
Name Supplied
Alan Hickmore. - 30/10/10

I suggest that we write to a certain D. Cameron and suggest that he stand aside as Alan Hickmore seems a more level headed chap than he is. The supermarket debate WILL eventually give us a decent shop as he suggests, but when?
Anyway, Alan Hickmore for PM!
Colin
Access to Gloucester St Supermarket- 30/10/10

Even if we reroute children via the Lechlade Road entrance to school, there will still be 3-4 deliveries a day - lorries negotiating a road that the recycling lorries struggle to get round; what a joke the road widening proposed it - what they are really saying here if you look at the proposal is that they will use some of the existing footpath to widen the road! Do we really the extra haulage traffic negotiating the market place to reach the A420.

If we have to have a supermarket in the Gloucester Street car park then we need to be negotiating delivery access from another direction. I am not convinced that the Faringdon House Estate is undertaking a service to the Faringdon community - it will leave us with a legacy of traffic chaos and danger. When Budgens announced they were saying no to Tesco, were they really aware of the potential threat from a supermarket quite literally on their doorstep!!
Name Supplied
Reply to Randolph Re:Monkeys- 30/10/10

Good Sir it was with great pleasure I read you most recent reply. It is warming to know that the local community has an expert in these matters.

Thank you for identifying the species of monkey we have in the town. Although I have spent some time the traveling through Central America, observing the local primate populas, I was unable to identify this new breed. The closest comparison I could make was with the Ateles geoffroi although the lack of prehensile tail meant I could not identify for certain.

I heed your words of warning, luckily on my most recent sighting I was accompanied by my hetrosexual life partner Samwise, had I not, I certainly would fear for ones safety.

Your planned insurgency against the local populace is indeed inspired. However, I fear that at the speed at which this one populace breeds, the town, county and even country could be over-run in an alarmingly short time. I fear that threat of a post apocalyptic monkey ruled society (something akin to the fictional work of "Planet of the Apes") hangs delicately in the balance.

Whilst traveling the back roads of the Osa Pennisula in Costa Rica I came across a local by the name of Javies del Sol, who speicalises in mass monkey clearence. The indeginous populace herald him as some form of monkey shamen. Perhaps his services can be acquired for a small fee.

I look forward to hearing your and other residents ideas on the matter before our great community is dammed, dammed to hell.

Faithfully Submited

Frodo Baggins
New Carers group in Faringdon - 29/10/10

Do you provide unpaid care for someone who is ill, disabled, frail or has an addiction?
Caring responsibilities can be all consuming, emotionally draining and physically demanding.
Would you like some time to yourself to meet people who are also caring for someone? Have some lunch, relax, chat to others and find out what support services are available to you?

Then come along to a FREE buffet lunch, to discuss
A New Carers Group in Faringdon
on
Wednesday 8th December 12.30pm – 2.30pm
In Brackendale Common Room, Ferndale Road, SN7 7AJ

Places are limited, so you will need to book
For more information or to book a place, please contact
Brian Conroy
Community Development Officer
Tel 01993 704007
brian.conroy@oxfordshire.gov.uk
Supermeerkat- 29/10/10

Yes, what we clearly need here is a SUPERMEERKAT!

shophound
Supermarket solution:- 29/10/10

The only reason we need another supermarket in Faringdon is because the current one doesn't meet the needs of the town or, possibly more importantly for incoming business, the surrounding area.
Solution - demolish the current one and let a retailer who would be a drawcard to Faringdon build a new, bigger one with parking underneath.
Sschimplish.
Tesco, Waitrose and planning.- 29/10/10

Tesco, Waitrose and planning.

I thought it might be useful if I set out what has happened over the last few years so that everybody knows the facts. I'm sorry but this is going to be quite long.

In 2008 the District Council published their "Draft Core Strategy" for the period up to 2026. This included a report on retailing in Faringdon that basically said that we did not need any more shop space. It also said that we should have about 450 new houses built opposite the Bloor Homes site in Park Road. This will increase our population by about 44%.A subsequent report indicated that Faringdon needed an additional supermarket.

Meanwhile:
JDS had gone into receivership. Tesco bought the site and leased it to a new company - Redlake Joinery - but indicated that they wanted to develop the site eventually as a supermarket.

Meanwhile
The "Core Strategy" had indicated that the site proposed by Faringdon House for housing was not suitable as it was in a conservation area.

Meanwhile
The officers at the District Council decided that improvement in the retail offer in Faringdon could be achieved if Budgens was extended by compulsorily purchasing the old post office, the Red Lion, the Barclays Bank car park and some adjacent houses. This plan was dropped when it was remembered that the post office and the Red Lion were "listed" buildings.

Meanwhile
The Faringdon House Estate had shown an interest in developing their site as a parade of shops with living accommodation and a community building (possibly a museum).

So
District Council officers said "why not develop it as a supermarket site"?

Meanwhile
Redlake Joinery had gone into liquidation and the site was empty. Tesco firmed up their plans and held an exhibition in the Corn Exchange followed by a Planning & Highways meeting at which about 100 people attended and gave their views. The result was about 50/50.

Then
Tesco submitted a planning application for the Park Road site. This is comprehensive and detailed. It rubbished the Gloucester St. site for all the reasons of access and egress and the topography of the site (it is on a severe slope and the digging out of the land would be an expensive and disruptive task).

Then :
Faringdon Town Council took the view that the Tesco application should go ahead and insisted that the industrial land that would be converted to retail use should be replaced by allowing the Wicklesham quarry site to be developed for this purpose. There were a further series of caveats attached.

Then:
Waitrose (following representations from the advisors to Faringdon House) made clear their interest in developing the Gloucester Road site. We have no full details but they will present these at an exhibition on 12th/13th November in the Pump Rooms and at a meeting of FTC planning & highways committee on 23rd November.

Meanwhile
The "Development Control Committee" (planning committee) of the Vale of White Horse District Council (the planning authority) rejected the application by Tesco on the grounds that it was too far from the shopping centre and that it was taking up industrial land (although this had not been used since 2008). They ignored the Faringdon Town Council suggestion that the land could be replaced at Wicklesham Quarry.

That's where we are. The next steps could well be:

An appeal by Tesco to the planning inspectorate against the decision by the district council.

An application in late Novemebr by Waitrose for the development of the site behind Gloucester Street.

The exhibition by Waitrose in November.

Remember that all these decisions are determined by reference to planning law embodied in "Planning Policy Statement 4" (PPS4) which gives the way these decisions are made. If you want a precis of PPS4 it is available from the Deputy Town Clerk.

The next few years are going to be interesting for the retail development of Faringdon. We will have a new supermarket (somewhere) and that will have a revitalising affect on the town.

(Please note that these are my personal views and do not necessarily reflect those of FTC Planning & Highways Committee)

Alan Hickmore
ED(GW) Thanks Alan
Vodaphone signal is down again- 29/10/10

The vodafone signal is down yet again in Faringdon and I'm very annoyed. So I phoned them and threatened to cancel all 4 contracts I have with them. They've subsequently offered to send me a special piece of equipment free of charge which gives me the ability to connect up via the internet in and around my home - free of charge. It's called "my sure signal".
So - if you are as fed up as I am, I suggest you phone customer services and ask for this piece of kit free. Maybe, if a lot of people do this vodafone will address the issue with the mast once and for all. Let us know how you get on. In the meantime, they still wont tell me what's gone wrong with the mast now. Is our resident vodafone employee able to shed any light on this please?
Godfrey Smith
In response to the 'Leakey influenced person' re Coxwell Road excavations, 26/10- 29/10/10

How wonderful to read an articulate, referenced and professional response with a bit of wit chucked in for a change! Whoever the chap is who ran the dig at Coxwell Road, I salute you!
Mel
Access to 'Waitrose' and school kids.- 29/10/10

If this particular junction is such a problem then surely the answer is to use the footpath on the other side of Lechlade Road and use the School entrances beyond the disputed road access. The danger is therefore walked around with out anyone having to modify anything other than there habitual shortest route to the school entrance. A shame that side of the road does not get the sun as you can miss soaking up some rays but otherwise simples!

If Faringdon is to encourage additional custom from outside the town then traffic will increase around the streets. That is a good thing. If you see this as a problem then you are really against a successful town centre. You cannot really have one without the other. Moving entrances to differing cul de sacs is only moving the traffic jams of school time. I think this is due to the school traffic rather than the background traffic of commerce isn't it? It can be avoided by using legs for the majority.

Of course the additional traffic might be all the people rushing to shop outside Faringdon now Tesco have been disappointed. I just hope these folk do thier home economics and shop effciently rather than in some sort of spite against Budgens. You need to calculate your fuel, wear and tear and loss of time in shopping out of town on top of your trolley of goods. It is very often more than folk think. Best is to join the middleclasses at Lidl or Aldi, really cheap, for a mass goods purchase once every two weeks and buy fresh and top up goods locally.
I do not see a small Tesco changing that. Waitrose, depends what they plan to build. Asda, Oh dear, I think that will stimulate depopulation other than the Faringdon Monkeys who will probably be delighted.
Alan Hitchcock
Just a thought.- 29/10/10

W. Shakespeare caused Lord Polonius in Hamlet to say "Brevity is the Soul of Wit"
So the convoluted posting from Reading University would not have been appreciated by Lord P.
But after ploughing through the verbiage I have to concede that an existing problem is perfectly described and the solution, though totally reprehensible, would appear to be the only effective one under our present jurisprudence.
So it would be understandable if a group of individuals, after a few drinks possibly, should take the law into their own hands and chastise the miscreants who at present are above the law.
Needless to say, I am not advocating the use of violence against the deprived children, no doubt coming from broken homes, who are allowed to take over the town centre by our powerless policemen but.....
Wouldn’t it be nice to hear that some of them had been taught the error of their ways in the only way they understand !
Wishful Thinker.
Supermarket Traffic- 29/10/10

Dear all, Has anyone actually read either the report from 2 weeks ago from, the council on why tesco should be refused planning? and has anyone read the application from Waitrose?
The tesco app does not fulfil several important criteria in the eyes of the councillors, simple as that. as for "jobs lost" you cannot lose uncreated jobs, and if you READ the review it suggests that 100 jobs would actually be about 20-30 (iir) full time and the rest part time which does not constitute 100 jobs being created.
Just wondering with all this moaning about Budgens, if ANY other supermarket were to appear on the site of Budgens would you do your main shop there? Be it Aldi, Lidal, or a M&S food?
Name Supplied
Wanted all monkey hunters! - 29/10/10

I made a similar post a few weeks ago about these creatures that frequent our town. Apparently they are called ''youth'' and apparently harmless. Nevertheless, I would not like to get close enough to find out if they are.
I am not up to date with my innoculations. is there an authority to round up these animals so that they do not spread, or is the situation now beyond that? ??
Name Supplied
Supermarket Traffic- 29/10/10

The comment regarding children in inner cities has no relevence, as we are not an inner city. no children are not made of bone china and yes they can be taught to take extra care but have you actully driven down Gloucester St in peak school times? this is not a road for heavy 'supermarket' traffic, its far to narrow what are they going to do knock down the library or some homes, how about turning our brains on!!

I'v lived here all my life and i think its a lovely idea faringdon is expanding but how is putting a supermarket in this area expanding? park road is a perfect spot for any one in faringdon to get to with no hassle. i really dont see the problem with this!so by all means lets expand this lovely (market?) town. I think Mr Koder hit the nail on the head with

:Tesco building a proper size supermarket on park road.
Faringdon house estate allows public access along some tasteful paths through a managed nature reserve behind the school. (WHAT A LOVELY IDEA WHICH WOULD ATTRACT PEOPLE TO OUR TOWN) Local specialist businesses thrive by supplying quality products the supermarkets do not, and are supported by free parking.

SOME GOOD IDEAS!
also how about gutting budgens to a shell and having a lovely indoor market, so we could actully say we are a market town! i and sooo many people i know will be very dissapointed at not getting a tesco, but if the door has closed on that lets focus our energy on not having supermarkets in stupid places!! rant over :)

A tesco fan
Dear Frodo Baggins.- 28/10/10
I read, with academic curiosity, your contribution regarding local Monkeys.
You may be interested to know that the creatures you are referring to are actually know in the study of lumpenproletariat behaviour as 'Infantium Obsanus'. Commonly known as the 'Acne Faced Chav'. Identifiable, as you so rightly pointed out, by their grubby Pound Saver tracksuit bottoms, hoody tops and tedious baseball caps, a particularly tiresome American fashion introduced into this country by someone who has a lot to answer for.

The disturbing sound emitted by Chav’s in a crude effort at communication is usually marked, as you say, by primitive screeching and a total inability to construct a sentence without the use of the words C*** or F***. This condition is suspected to be the result of either the Mothers excessive consumption of crisps and viewing of daytime tv during conception or poor perinatal care carried out by desperate Taliban insurgents masquerading as NHS healthcare professionals.
While the common Acne Faced Chav is normally diffident and generally useless on its own it can become a problem when part of a gathering of five or more. Under these conditions Chav’s are capable of spiting up to a distance of two metres, particularly when defecating in Churches or urinating on war memorials.
Your comparison with monkeys is interesting and brings to mind the problems experienced in the city of Deli, India, where troublesome gangs of Rhesus monkeys regularly roam the streets causing problems. The Rhesus monkey, like the Cow, is regarded as a sacred creature in India and despite its antisocial behaviour is heavily protected by strong religious beliefs making it effectively immune from normal law and enforcement. In comparison the British Acne Faced Chav, while in no way sacred, is a creature heavily protected by a ludicrous British legal system, local social services, sympathetic magistrates, members of the public not wishing to be branded as paedophiles and in particular, aggressive, Staffordshire bull terrier owning, relatives permanently under the influence of recreational drugs.

The solution in Deli was to instigate the use of higher caste monkeys, carefully nurtured by the local police, rewarded with treats and trained to kick the crap out of trouble making simian offenders when the need arose.
Based upon this inspired and ingenious example I believe it is perfectly conceivable that a similar solution could be possible in Britain. This would take the form of a covert operation, sponsored by Rentokil, where suitable candidates from exclusive private schools could be recruited as undercover territorial Chav’s. Following intensive training by the military and death of elocution street speak specialists, they would be deployed as a defensive force to ensure the street corners, bus shelters and WW2 pill boxes of Faringdon remain in good order and free of infestation and odious unrest …
Randolf Higginbottom.
Professor of Ghastliness.
The Jeremy Kyle Centre for Dysfunctional Studies.
Reading University.
Re Skatepark - 28/10/10

The FTC have requested that Bloor Homes lay the base for it as part of their S106 agreement and the are legally bound to do this.
Funds have been set aside for years to put the pipes on it and SK8 are campaigning for further funding.
Name Supplied
Tesco- 28/10/10
Shameful descision by VWHDC turning down the Tesco planning application,it seems Faringdon always gets a raw deal.This was a great chance to improve the area around Park Road bringing more people into the town/extra jobs and kick starting the local economy-now it will just become an eyesore.
Hardly an out of town store anyway with all the new housing developments taking place-if it was sited near the A420 by the roundabout i could see the point of the arguement.
Sadly most people will do their main food shopping elsewhere Swindon/Wantage etc. Faringdon will continue to be a dormitory town.
Back to the Dark Ages.
Name Supplied
Budgens. - 28/10/10

Lets get behind Budgens now and tell them what we want from them. Head office would be interested to know.
It's in everyone's interest in Faringdon and surrounding villages that it meets their requirements.
Positive comments too please.
Name Supplied
Tesco- 28/10/10

Tesco what a waste of time our council is, they don't care one bit about the way we feel, or the things we would like,I give up like someone else mentioned about the skate park, that,s another thing that's never going to happen, bunch of jokers.
ah well I will just have to keep making the journey to swindon for my food shopping,
Name Supplied
ED(GW) It's the VWHDC councill that made the decision, not Faringdon Town Council
Tesco debate- 28/10/10

"Why do we bother when obviously us little people don't count we are here not invisible.
Name Supplied"
Name supplied, not invisible?
Mr Invisible
Tesco debate- 28/10/10

Once again the council have ignored the people of faringdon over the Tesco debate .
LET US HAVE A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR TOWN .
You are quick enough letting us have our say when it comes to voting local mps. Why do we bother when obviously us little people don't count we are here not invisible.
Name Supplied
New Supermarket - 28/10/10

Dont make me laugh. It will be like the skate park. This year, next year, sometime, NEVER. Thanks a lot, councillors. I dont think.
name supplied, one of many!
Folly Christmas Light and Monkeys- 28/10/10

Whats the plan for this years festive lighting atop the Folly Tower?

If a decision has yet to be made I would again like to suggest something akin to "The Eye of Mordor" casting its evil gaze on the proposed site(s) of Tesco or Waitrose, highligting the inadequacy of both sites to wider public.

Also whilst strolling through Budgens car park a few nights ago, I was amazed to see a new breed of monkey...They stand approx 5ft tall, and wears clothes! yes clothes! Typically baseball caps,baggy trouser and hooded jumpers they can often be seen climbing over and along the wall that seperates the Southampton Street car park and Barclays car park. These monkeys have also developed some form of speech pattern and dialect. Although broken with high pitched screeching it appears to be English in nature.

I suggest the town council assemble a team of expeirenced hunters to trap and research this truely remarkable species that is apparently thriving in Faringdon.
Frodo Baggins - Monkey Hunter
Supermarket - 28/10/10

I am disapopointed that Tesco's application has been refused. It does call into question just who our district councillors are representing, since clearly they are not supporting the wishes of the majority of the residents. It will be years before we are 'allowed' to have a meaningful choice here, and all for the interests of a minority, a few of whom I daresay have strong vested interests.

name supplied
Supermarket Traffic and Dave's comment - 28/10/10

Of course kids can be taught to be careful but when the road layout is awful there remains a level of danger that is little to do with the kids being careful or the care of car drivers either for that matter.

The road layout at the access point to the Gloucester Street car park is absolutely terrible. It is not really wide enough for two cars to pass safely and the pavement is very narrow too. People coming from the market square direction cannot see what is coming up from the car park and drivers can't see them till they are almost in the road. Also the amount of car, bicycle and foot traffic at the start and end of the school day make this a very dangerous stretch of road already without adding lorries and more cars.

I also think your expectations that Faringdon kids should have the same level of street/traffic awareness that inner-city kids have is a little unrealistic.
Since I doubt the layout ever could be improved, we will have to live with it as it is, but that is all the more reason not to add to the danger.
Katrina Campbell
Faringdon is great - 28/10/10

Yes it is and I use all the shops you mention (I'm anti supermarkets selling flowers and newpapers !). All our meat comes fresh from Pat Thomas, I love the gift shops, Pure me is wonderful and the Coffee House is my second home !. Unfortunately the one thing that most of us need, especially young families, is a good supermarket. I don't do any of my food shopping in Budgens so always go out of town - and that won't change while Budgens is our only choice. I don't think any of the places (gift shops etc) will be affected by a Tesco, Waitrose or any other supermarket because we will continue to use them. The only shop which will suffer is Budgens and I'm afraid they've had plenty of notice of the possibility of competition. They could have really upped their game and started encouraging people to use them by sorting out their prices. We don't mind paying a little extra if it means we don't have to drive anywhere but we won't be ripped off.
They still have time to get people on their side.......however if the cafe rumour is true then I think they can say goodbye.
They can't moan about competition and then try and take trade from others in the town.
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Ghostly Goings On??! - 28/10/10

I have been approached by a national newspaper who are doing an article on Ghostly Goings On.
Does anyone have any stories about ghosts in Faringdon? Please email sally@faringdontowncouncil.gov.uk
Thanks Sally
Faster Broadband - We're doing well - but more votes needed - 2810/10

7.62% - 263 votes have been cast out of a total of 3,452

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Disappointed - Tesco - 28/10/10

I am very disappointed Tesco is not coming to Faringdon.
So I will continue to shop out of town, with most of the Faringdon population, until Budgens improvements drastically. I know for a fact that many some Budgens employees don't shop there.
It would be interesting to see if the council allows the Waitrose Plan.
Actually how about a nice Asda Walmart people.
Any ideas anyone?
Jacqui Massey
Faringdon is great- 28/10/10

Friends in Faringdon,
Great news, the Vale have sensibly applied national planning policy and rejected Tesco's out of town application to build a small supermarket out on Park Road. >

The reason this is great news is that our town centre will have the opportunity to welcome some of us back with open arms. It would be a real pity if local people continued to campaign against our historic town centre and continued to support an out of town supermarket bid. >

Personally, I'm off to see Rob the cheese (Manna)for a pasty, decide whether to sit outside to have a coffee (probably not) then buy a couple of early Christmas pressies from the Nut Tree, Pure Me, Presentations and possibly a bunch of nice flowers from Thanks a Bunch for my wife. >

Then I think I will grab a paper and a cheap pinta milk from the newsagents, a couple of DIY bargains from Davis and that Really Useful Shop and enjoy a nice pint in a welcoming local pub. Maybe even a beer at the refurbished Swan's beer festival, for only £1.99, whose with me….? >

Isn't Faringdon Great.
Cheers everyone!
Andrew
Re: Gloucester St suggestion for a supermarket.- 28/10/10

The Highways Authority is Oxfordshire County Council and they have stated that there will be no access whatsoever onto the Lechlade road and that includes Woodview.
Personal opinion is that the VWHDC's plan is a non-starter.
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Daydream - 28/10/10

Perhaps FTC are playing a really long game and and can sort this out before I retire:

Tesco builds proper size, fully discounting supermarket on Park Rd, and funds development of a friendly path to the centre

Waitrose buy Budgens so we can buy nice convenience food

Faringdon House Estate allows public access along some tasteful paths through a managed nature reserve behind the school

Local specialist businesses thrive by supplying quality products the supermarkets do not, and are supported by free parking

Banks and landlords make it possible for independents and chain shops to set up and survive;

Pizza Express opens in Threshers (ok maybe I'm pushing it).
Tim Koder
Tesco Planning Application refused permission.- 28/10/10

The Development Control Committee of the Vale District Council refused planning permition for the Tesco supermarket on Park Road tonight.
The vote had only one abstention and no supporters of the application.

One mystery was solved. Two of our district councillors, Cllr Matthew Barber and Cllr Roger Cox voted against the application and Cllr Alison Thomson spoke against it.
The next stage could well be an appeal by Tesco against the decision. (Note that any views in this posting are mine and not those of the FTC P&H Committee)
Alan Hickmore
Supermarket traffic- 28/10/10

I cant help wondering when I read all the whining about more traffic for the proposed supermarket sites what people think children who live in inner cities do when their schools are near busy roads. It's just par for the course for many kids. Children aren't made of bone china and can be taught to be careful.
As for faringdon getting bigger, its the best thing that could happen so all the nimbys need to wake up and realise that without new blood and spending power the town will become totally dead. Its half way there already.
Dave.
regarding budgens banner- 28/10/10

What do people think when they cut the staff hours and tell them they have just employed new staff no wonder the staff aint happy all the time the owner needs to wake up and speak to the staff at budgens before the all leave
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Supermarket traffic- 28/10/10

I think that access should be through the Faringdon estate from the Lechlade Road - Google Earth it and you will find there is already a defined route ... and clearly no thought has been given to the children who make the journey to school and have to cross the top of Gloucester Street car park road to get to school - and I'm not just thinking delivery lorries, I'm thinking about the additional traffice that will be accessing the supermarket.
If the Faringdon Estate want to make a fast buck by selling the land off then they should't be allowed let the town take the burden of inconvenience e.g. additional traffic and subsequent risk. I want a supermarket - Tesco, Waitrose or whoever but sensible and safe access to it has to be a priority.
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Supermarket traffic- 27/10/10

Whether an access to Waitrose (or anr supermarket behind Gloucester St) is from Woodview or the current (maybe widened) access to the car park, think about the volume of traffic on the roundabout at the top of Marlborough St, Gravel Walk, Lechlade Road at school times, exit from Gloucester St car park - one way into Cornmarket and either through the town or round the Corn Exchange up Marlborough St. Not just lorries, but shoppers cars too.

Is this really to be encouraged?
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Supermarket traffic- 27/10/10

In reply to the comment "what makes anyone think that a supermarket would try to squeeze its delivery traffic through the entrance to the municipal car park in Gloucester Street. Do you imagine that they're not clever enough to think that one out?"
The answer is that I have read the proposal on the faringdon House Estate website (URL http://www.faringdonhouseestate.co.uk/18097%20A3%20MK%2010%2002%2009%20letter%20to%20k%20barrett%20-%20core%20strategy%20representations%20+%20appendicespdf.pdf - you may need a pdf reader to see this).

This document clearly states: "Vehicular access
Access to a new store would be from the Gloucester Street Car park access road".
They envisage 3-4 delivery lorries a day using this, and they say it would be widened - but unless they propose knocking down either the library or the other building on the opposite corner there isn't really much they could do to widen the road is there?

I am not at all sure "they" have thought this through and am not prepared to take it on trust that "they" have, as "they" may not have to live with the mess if this goes through but as a faringdon resident I would have.
Katrina Campbell
Waitrose appealing?- 27/10/10

The 'Waitrose' idea is more appealing from a town centre business perspective but falls down on access. The carpark behind the Dentists etc used to have a height restriction to prevent trucks going down there. Glibly opening up a new road from Woodview into the area means cutting across the old Elms Playing Fields. While the Council Departments involved would gain revenue the town loses a resource to a business I wonder if we need. Indeed is Woodview actually of a design to be any better access than the Gloucester Street one? Tescos have the better and more accessable position for a supermarket attracting out of town customers. If not a shop who is going to start a business there in the current economic climate even if the owners were to let the properties? Not looking like a goer. If you are out of town then you drive to the easiest to access and cheapest or most 'middleclass' apparently supermarket of your choice (I thought the Middle Class would have gone for home delivery but what do I know). That is unlikely to be hidden round the back of Faringdon unless you wish to frequent one of the Faringdon specialist shops. I do not see the development bringing in any much more folk from out of town than the 'Tesco out of town' store.

Coming in from the other direction I had the benefit of having a coffee with a chum sat in the sun of the Market Place on Monday. The place is a nice area to be. We need to keep these business going and the area is a resource. It is a difficult balance to achieve. Best to get along to Alan Hickmore's consultative meetings and gain facts to provide our representitives with reasoned opinions they can use. I do not perhaps agree with the Market Place layout totally but at least Mr Hickmore and co tried his best to create something which has seen more use of the area for town events. What we had would be a bit of a mess now and much less attractive day to day or as a venue for town celibrations. We can only build on what we have that is good.
Would it be possible to inforce night/out of hours deliveries on a supermarket? If so then 'Waitrose' might work.
Alan Hitchcock
Overview- 27/10/10

I think The Steeds ground research revealed a politically incorrect Roman find so was hastily covered up. I have it on good authority that a Tescus market place lies under that area and dating remains from round the town show that some 50 years after the Tescus opened, a tablet was found dating it's opening, the town was abandaned until the Dark Ages when many of the now inhabitants forebares were sent here from Abingdon on the understanding that they work hard but give most of thier money to Abingdon.
It was a shame that Tescus saw the collapse of the Roman town as big plans were afoot. For many years a colliseum was planned for sports, a clock was to be made to celibrate bumping off God, always a good idea if he is handy - see Afghanistan.
Several areas were to see new housing for more people not interested in living in the town but on its distance from their bosses at work. Alas it was not to be and the whole lot moved to what is now Stanford in the Vale where the mud was much better since it was still a swamp then.
Well I had a spare five minutes and you did ask!
Alan Hitchcock
Possible change in Planning Law - 27/10/10

"The Housing Minister, Grant Sharps MP, has outlined a new right that will allow communities across England to come together and create new homes, shops businesses and facilities.
Grant Sharp says '"he new community right to build will shift power from Government to communities to allow local people to deliver homes and development that they really want ,without being told that their expansion does not fit with their local( principal) council's plans and should not go ahead."
The details will be contained in the forthcoming L ocalism Bill. We will be seeking a clearer definition of community organisations which will have the green light to new developments without a specific application or planning permission as long as there is overwhelming community backing in a local referendum. Furthermore we will demand answers as to how the process of the local referendum will be met.

The National Association guess that where a community brings forward a development c heme it should be granted because it:
Has the support of the local( parish or town)council and the community on the basis of a high quality community plan
Shows evidence of need
ls of suitable scale with no overwhelmin site constraints on drainage, archaeology and biodiversity
lt should apply to all development schemes ,not just those involving community development."

This potential change to the law could be of significant importance to Faringdon. Wicklesham quarry development is just one possibility.
Note:
A word of warning. T he legislation under which we are currently w orking also started with very similar aims but was changed by the time it was enacted so that the major change was the weakening of the powers of County C ouncils and the strengthening of Districts.
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See http://www.number10.gov.uk/queens-speech/2010/05/queens-speech-decentralisation-and-localism-bill-50673
Fernhill Practice Patient Group Meeting - 26/10/10

Next meeting, is to be held at the Practice at 6:30pm- c7.30pm on Thursday the11th of November.
We hope to be able to inform the group about the Government's latest White Paper and how we think Commissioning will affect us here within Primary Care.
All welcome to come
Paul Jeffries
Practice Manager
RE: Expensive Waitrose 23/10/10- 26/10/10

I'd like to move to Faringdon .But where to live's a riddle.
I often shop in Waitrose but.....
I also go to Lidle !
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Wanted for Giant Jumble Sale - 7/10/10

Books, DVDs, bric a brac, toys, good clothes, shoes, bags, etc.
Raffle prizes.
In aid of Parkinsons Disease, Multiple Sclerosis and 10% to Hope Dog Rescue.
All needed for the Giant Jumble Sale, Saturday 13th November.
Tel: 01367 241753 or 240130
Say 'Yes' to Waitrose / planning - 26/10/10

Provided the planning criteria can be satisfied, a Waitrose or Morrisons in Faringdon would be ideal. A small Tesco Express, anywhere in the town, would not be worth the bother.

I shop at Budgens some of the time but the one in Faringdon could be much better. I would definitely not be interested in a cafe there..?! What does worry me is parking, and traffic through the narrow centre at peak times. Any new supermarket would need its own, additional, car-park with access from outside the town centre.

I suppose the planning people must know what they are doing but it seems to me that too many new houses are being built in Faringdon. The shape of the town has become 'warped' and its nature has been changing from small, historical market town to 'dormitory' town for people who work and shop elsewhere. The schools will soon be oversubscribed, if they aren't already.
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Sarcasm- 26/10/10

Someone misses me! I agree, the site has become lamentably dull lately, with all this dreary supermarket bickering and positively anaesthetic references to council websites and government guidelines. I shall try to get into 'posting' mode. The last time I wrote anything sarcastic I was taken to task I seem to remember, but there, you can't please all the people all the time.

forum bully
In response to the 'Leakey influenced person' re Coxwell Road excavations - 26/10/10

I am a resident of Faringdon and it was I who ran the archaeological fieldwork off Coxwell Road. I have over 15 years experience in the field and feel that I must point out a few inaccuracies in your postings.
These perhaps arise from the differences between excavations undertaken by academic institutions (eg. Leakey excavating hominid remains in the deserts of Africa), and developer funded commercial excavations, in Britain (Iron age / Romano-British on the outskirts of Faringdon). It is standard practice to use a JCB/mechanical digger to remove the overburden overlying the archaeology (even Time Team use a machine). Then the archaeological features are hand excavated.

In accordance with PPS 5 the developer commissioned an Archaeological Evaluation. This was a relatively small project, conducted by a professional company that was following the IfA (Institute for Archaeologists) code of practice, and working within a generous time-frame of two weeks. All the trenches were inspected by Oxfordshire's County Archaeologist. The archaeological evaluation, is one of the initial procedures, within any proposed development to evaluate what nature, and the location of any archaeological remains, if any, are present. If planning permission is given, then in advance of any building work, a detailed excavation will be conducted, funded by the developer (again within the guidelines set out in PPS 5). Copies of the written report of the evaluation have been deposited with the land owner, developers and the county archaeologist.

The shrine revealed in the previous work before the housing estate was built has been reported on in the following-

Weaver, S,D,G and Ford, S. An early Iron age occupation site, a Roman shrine and other Prehistoric activity at Coxwell Road, Faringdon. Oxoniensia 71, 119-180.

Cooke, J, Gutterman, E,B,A, and Mudd, A. Excavations of an Iron age site at Coxwell Road, Faringdon. Oxoniensia 71, 181-285.

Other recommended reading-

Government planning policy statement (PPS 5) 5,
IfA code of conduct.
In reference to your second post, the same processes described above will be employed to verify the presence of any cropmarks, but I don't think we will be required to investigate any stressed vegetation (perhaps the unhappy plants should see a horticultural therapist?). As to a geophysical survey, this would be fairly inconclusive as the archaeological horizons were very similar to the natural clay present across the site. I hope this allays any qualms about Faringdon's rich and varied heritage.
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Skatepark - 26/10/10

Whats the plan with the skatepark at the new cricket ground? I understand there has been planning objections, is this correct?
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Local fast food/takeaway - 26/10/10

Local fast food/takeaway
Worst first(in my opinion), best last
6. Chicken place opposite budgens-very rude unless you are 18 and wearing a short skirt.
5. Best food 2000- nice lads, and on time with serving/orders and delivery. but basically the food they sell is to soak up the ale.
4. Mayflower-great service, but food not great
3. Mings-okay, but again not great and always late with food.
2. Saffron-good food,but staff a bit too keen (im not worried if my cutlery isnt quite parrellel with each other)
1.Viceroy-great food, great staff.
1. Bangkok kitchen-fantastic food(tastes clean and fresh). Obliging staff, if they say 30 minutes to pick up food in 30 minutes its ready! highly reccomend.

Viceroy and Bangkok kitchen are top of the faringdon league.
Anyone else ave any thoughts?
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Supermarkets- 26/10/10

Can someone give a ''BREIF'' explanation on what have been proposed for new supermarkets and where?
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Community Message from Thames Valley Police- 2610/10

PROPERTY POST CODING KITS
In order to prove the identity of lost or stolen property a limited number of property post coding kits will be available from police stations in the Vale of White Horse area from Wednesday 27th October 2010. These kits will allow you to mark any valuable property and then store your coded items on a secure and free database. The cost of a kit is £14.00 and includes DNA Ultra Violet & Micro Dot unique coding. Kits are available from Abingdon, Wantage and Faringdon Police Station.
If you require FREE crime reduction advice or further information about property marking, please contact your Thames Valley Police Crime reduction Advisor on 08458 505 505.
Waitrose- 25/10/10

Cult following? What nonsense, and what makes anyone think that a supermarket would try to squeeze its delivery traffic through the entrance to the municipal car park in Gloucester Street. Do you imagine that they're not clever enough to think that one out?

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Say no to Waitrose – some reasons!!- 25/10/10

This appears to be another dead end development and therefore access/egress for emergency and service vehicles would be a problem.
Access to/from the car park is an issue for large vehicles – the Barnes bus refuse to use the car park due to safe access issues and there have been a number of accidents resulting in damage to Elm Side by a large vehicle attempting to turn left down the one way system

Additional traffic using the supermarket would create hazards for parents and children attempting to cross at the top of the Gloucester Street car park or across the road from the south to the north side of Gloucester Street outside the library where there is currently a school crossing – there have been many unreported near misses! Access from the Lechlade Rd on to Gloucester street is already a problem with traffic having to wait for lengthy periods particularly at the start and end of the school day or on days when refuse was collected and this would be exacerbated by extra traffic trying to access/egress the Gloucester Street car park.
Furthermore delivery vehicles would need to exit the proposed site down the one way system, through the middle of the Market Place either up London Street or Marlborough street which would impact significantly on the unique character of the town centre to its detrement.
The site proposed for Waitrose is a green field site already identified by the District Council as not suitable for development,
The site is also a conservation areas and an area protected for its landscape quality.
Furthermore Faringdon needs a low cost to mid range supermarket able to meet the needs of its growing population not a supermarket with a ‘cult’ following.
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The Steeds - 25/10/10

The Steeds In addition to my previous comment re the archaelogy of the land development proposed @ The Steeds - it would be VERY interesting to see what a proper Geo-phys survey of that area throws up. Looking at aerial photography of the fields in question, there is certainly vegetation 'stress' evidence of a man-made structure that was there at some point. I cannot make any educated guess as to dates, but the geometric outline does indicate that it is significantly possible that there was prior occupation of the area.
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Possible housing development top of Coxwell Road ( The Steeds) - 25/10/10

This might explain the large digger recently excavating numerous trenches across the field closest to the town boundary (which I understood was the Tennis Club land?). It was haphazard and large-scale.
Having undertaken Research-level archaeology with a renowned (Leakey-standard) archaeologist, I am skeptical that this would be enough. I certainly can't see any significant finds being located easily with a JCB... the trenches certainly weren't open long enough to allow an archaologist to check ALL the spoil heaps adequately. With a Roman temple just meters away (in the Coleshill Dr. estate), I'd like to think that as there is proof of some historical activity in the immediate area, that this would merit more than an afternoon scrabbling around with heavy plant machinery.
Certainly anything that might have been there, would now be somewhat pulverised.
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Sarcasm - 25/10/10

Can we have more sarcasm on this forum, its the only humour left on here!
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Whats a Hectare? - 25/10/10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hectare
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Hectares - 25/10/10


1 hectare = 10 000 sq metres
1 Hectare (ha) = 2.4710439 Acre (ac)
4 Hectare (ha) = 9.8841756 Acre (ac) = e40468sq m = e5.7 football pitches
1 (ave) football pitch - 7140sq metres

More conversions on http://www.conversion-metric.org/area_conversion/hectare_to_square_foot_conversion.php

A hectare is not a new measure-. It is used by land developers and planning authoties- and probably others.
'hectare 1810, from Fr. hectare "a hundred ares," formed from Gk. hekaton "hundred" (see hecatomb) + L. area "vacant piece of ground." A superficial measure containing 100 ares, coined by decree of the French National Convention in 1795'
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hectare
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Land at Steeds Farm - 25/10/10

http://www.faringdontowncouncil.gov.uk/files/resourcesmodule/@random49088be871b63/1285747553_P_H_Mins_3_08_10.pdf

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ED(GW) These meeting minutes include a discussion and points on VWHDCs proposed car parking survey in Faringdon
Whats a Hectare? - 25/10/10

Sick to death of the BBC and ITV ramming this alien measure down my throat and now its on this site.
I can imagine what an acre looks like, a mile and obviously a pint; but hectares! Not a clue.
Please use a "proper" measure as this is England and we still use miles and pints in pubs.

Colin
Faringdon Arts Festival 2011 - 25/10/10

Second stage for the Faringdon Arts Festival.
To broaden the appeal of the festival it is proposed to add a second stage.
The site has yet to be confirmed.
Sam Prince
Possible housing development top of Coxwell Road ( The Steeds) - 25/10/10

Wellbeck Strategic planning are trying to get permission for housing development at the top of Coxwell Road (Steeds Farm). They say this is a more suitable location than the land south of Park Road (VWHDCs preferred option)
This is the area where the Tennis club is to be relocated ( still).
They're talking about 420 houses at a lower density than other schemes (2 storey houses with gardens), 4 hectares of employment land, and potentially - allotments, new day to day retail and communitiy facilities, onsite renewable energy and recycling.
Anyone know anything more?
Gene Webb
Found tabby and white male cat in coleshill area - 24/10/10
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faringdon focus letter- 24/10/10

I must agree with the previous post about this. Most of the points dont make sense and the examples of shops and businesses are bizare. None of them is likely to be affected by tescos at all.
Is this the best that the chamber of commerce and faringon focus can do or are they all friends of the writer??
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Some good Budgens staff- 24/10/10

I applaud those hard working staff who have done their best over the years to make Budgens customers feel valued, but it does seem that they are fighting a losing battle.
I hate seeing the friendly staff trying to do three peoples jobs while others stand talking. Or else trying to operate without a supervisor to override till faults because it has decided not to replace the staff that have left.

Please, those supermarkets looking to take over the proposed sight, go headhunting and take those hard working staff who continually try to do their best to where they will hopefully be more appreciated!!
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Computer Fixer - 24/10/10

I always use White Horse computer specialists. Ivor has looked after my computers for a few years now. Excellent obliging service, flat rate charge.

http://www.whcs.co.uk/

HT
Local PC Fixer is QuidneIT - 24/10/10

Phone Raoul on 0845-4675087. He'll fix your PC and even explain what QuidneIT means..
Go Waitrose! - 24/10/10

I'd choose them every time over Tescos and Budgens. Waitrose's approach to customers and customer service is something both Tescos and Budgens could learn a lot from.
I vote WAITROSE!
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Out of town supermarket - 23/10/10

Someone said that Wantage town centre was a wasteland now there were out of town supermarkets, suggesting that would happen in Faringdon if tesco comes here.
I went to Wantage recently and the town centre is thriving. Cargo have taken over where Woollies used to be and there isnt an empty shop in sight.

Mind you they have town centre parking and the council have got rid of it here. I bet if they paved over the car park in Wantage no-one would go there either!
Come on tesco, and waitrose for that matter I say and liven the place up a bit.
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Someone to fix my PC? - 23/10/10

Can anyone recomend somebody who can fix my PC, locally.
Thanks
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Tesco - 23/10/10

These are my feelings on the Tesco issue, as sent to councillors and posted on the Facebook site.

Dear Councillor,
While the anti-Tescos campaign has had a very strong and public presence in Faringdon, mainly because of the availability of Budgens store to host their petition, the opinions of many people in Faringdon are not necessarily represented by this campaign. While I can only speak for myself and my wife, I have a strong feeling that a large number of your constituents are, like myself, in favour of a reasonable sized supermarket capable of providing a broader range of products, at reasonable prices and with improved availability compared with Budgens. My opinion is not in favour of Tescos specifically but in favour of an improved store from any of the larger supermarket chains (be it Sainsburys, Waitrose, Morrisons or, as currently proposed, Tescos).

In my opinion, Budgens does not provide the level of service that this town deserves (and this is not to decry the efforts of the current franchisee to rectify this). I have little confidence that he could ever achieve this in the current premises even if they were expanded as currently proposed, in part because I do not see Budgens as a major player on the supermarket scene and based on their performance in Faringdon since purchasing the premises from Carters. It is difficult to trust a trader who boasts to its customers that they have reduced the number of stock items by over 4000 (as Budgens did towards the end of its first year of trading in Faringdon, admittedly with a different manager). This may be desirable from a business efficiency standpoint, but it speaks volumes against Budgens (the company's) approach to customer service.

You will doubtless be aware of the letter that has been sent recently by Focus On Faringdon objecting to Tesco's planning application. I have a number of comments on this letter, as laid out below.

I hope that you consider the opinions of ALL your constituents, both the vocal and the less so when considering this application and, hopefully, as a result will feel able to support Tesco's application. Failing that, I hope that if there are subsequent applications from the other large chains that the council will feel able to support one of them, It is all very well to have 'destination' outlets such as Piano Forte, but Faringdon desperately needs improved day to day shopping facilities.

Kind regards

MY COMMENTS ON THE FARINGDON IN FOCUS LETTER

Re Tesco planning Application

'Faringdon is a small but successful Market Town.'

I'm not sure what the criteria are for a successful Market Town, but a town centre that is deserted, day and night, with the possible exception of Tueday morning market day and Friday and Saturday evenings doesn't feel successful to me.

'It has a unique shopping centre: home to several destination shops – including Majo furniture, The Piano Gallery and Turners Tackle.'

Another unique aspect to this is that none of these shops are likely to suffer from a loss of trade as a result of Tescos arriving. Mr. Elwell's letter says it all - they are destination shops. People come to Faringdon specifically to visit them. They will rarely come to Faringdon for other reasons and 'happen' to discover them. How many people stop in Faringdon today (perhaps for a sandwich or a loaf of bread) and discover that there is a piano shop and as a result eventually buy a piano? How many (of this already miniscule number) will NOT buy that a piano as a result of having shopped in Tescos instead?

'Within the town centre there are a number of National businesses including Bordengate, Bray Health & Leisure and Trophy Pet Foods.'

None of these businesses are retail outlets in the sense of a 'normal' shop.
1) It is unlikely that someone looking for insurance will chance on Bordengate while visiting one of the other shops.
2)Trophy Pet Foods is an on-line/mail order company only (at least as far as I ever knew and as confirmed by a visit to their web-site). Their only presence on the Faringdon shopping scene is a doorway in London Street leading to their offices. No real likelihood of Tescos presence affecting their business then!
3)Bray Health and Leisure is a Medical Products and Devices manufacturing company, as its own Web-Site http://brayhealthcare.co.uk/index.php/ states...'Bray Healthcare manufactures medicines, medical devices and general pharmacy products for the national health services of England, Wales and Scotland, medical practitioners, care providers, wholesale distributors, sports and complementary therapists, veterinary practices, chiropodists and podiatrists, schools and retail pharmacies in the UK and 40 other countries.' It has no retail outlet in Faringdon since it is basically a manufacturer / wholesaler to health related retail outlets. Furthermore it is located in Regal Way, so presumably very close to the proposed location of Tescos and therefore well out of the town centre, by the Chamber of Commerce's own argument!

' However, with Cost Cutters increasing their store size and a new mini-market being considered adjacent to the new Bloor Home housing estate this comment seems to have little merit or value.'

These are extremely unlikely to proved the range of product offerings of Budgens, let alone Tescos.

Three small and inadequate food shops don't add up to one larger store offering a sensible range of products at sensible stock keeping levels. Furthermore the two new ones are even further from the center of town than Tescos, so would, presumably, also be drawing people from the town center!

'The suggestion that a Tesco along Park Rd would deter people doing their main weekly shop outside of Faringdon is flawed. The proposed shop is no bigger than the existing shopping facility in Faringdon. It will therefore not realistically be able to offer a wider choice of goods than already exists (especially bearing in mind that some of the shopping space will be used for gifts, cards, kitchen utensils, etc).'

This argument
a)seems to acknowledge that the shopping facilities in Faringdon are inadequate
b)ignores the fact that a new store will be designed from day one as a supermarket, making optimal use of the space available rather than being squeezed into an outdated building that has been extended piecemeal to become the shopping nightmare that is Budgens
c)Recent 'innovations' in Budgens include the selling of hardware items, books, videos, greetings cards etc. - so where's the difference?
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'Tesco are keen to promote the idea that those who might shop in the new store would walk from their (free) car park to buy bread, meat, flowers, cake tins and a sandwich in Town.'

Unfortunately I have to acknowledge that this point is correct.
'The amount of business development land in Faringdon is limited. We should not allow anyone to take away the space that we have that can be used to enable local businesses to grow organically.'
There doesn't seem to have been great demand to use the available development land in the thirty years that I have lived in Faringdon.
Name supplied
Waitrose/Tesco - 23/10/10

It was I who suggested that traffic would use the Lechlade road access to a new supermarket; however I see the point, I reacted spontaneously to the post as I already shop at Waitrose pretty regularly. I also support Tesco. Prices at Waitrose are not as high as you may think, by the way; I shop in many different places so am in a position to know.

Does anyone seriously think that Budgens' owner will make the considerable investment necessary to put those expansion plans into operation?

Incidentally I have just looked through the public comments re the Tesco application, which was quite interesting. The majority of the objections came not from within Faringdon, but from the villages, some of which are so distant that I doubt whether the contributors actually come here at all. Smacks of an 'orchestrated' campaign.

What a good thing no-one at the Vale actually allows these letters to influence them. In fact, when has public opinion EVER made any difference to what the District Council does in Faringdon?.

Shophound
What a load of rubbish (Grey bin of course) ! - 23/10/10

Anonymity on this site is a great facility but sometimes a name supplied gives him (or her) self away and can easily be recognised by normal people.
The idiot who described who would shop at TESCOs and who at WAITROSE will be easily identified by the extra large chip on his (or her) shoulder !
Name Supplied
Aldi rumour - 23/10/10

Aldi have put a bid in to build a hypermarket at the foot of Folly Hill...
Can it be true?
Name supplied
Yes to Tesco - 23/10/10

i just cant believe that people are even considering a store behind the library, its ok saying the lorries can come in off the lechade road, but will they be coming through lechlade.or off the 420, and down gravel walk ,then head to lechlade ,and in the back way,? park road must be the best location,
like others have said, who else wants to use that land or the commercial land for sale by the roundabout, no one.

As for the walking distance, if Tesco was at park road, who would walk to do a weeks shopping ,surely you would have to drive there. budgens can get bigger and offer more maybe, but it will still be a budgens,

I have had a shop in faringdon for the last twelve years, i want a Tesco to come here, this town has been dying for the last 6 years, its like a ghost town, we need something to bring people here, it cant get any worse. It used to be so busy on a Saturday, now its like i am on a desert island.
i am not playing at being a shop keeper, its not a hobby, or something to do while i am retired, its my livelihood, and if things don’t change, i will seriously consider selling my premises for flats or houses, nothing ever changes, faringdon, was going to get a skate park, like all the other surrounding villages, that’s when my son was seven, he is now twenty, and we still don’t have one,
i think something stinks, a few backhanders behind the scene maybe ? we all know it happens,
that’s it rant over
Name supplied
Tesco/Waitrose - 23/10/10

I think I am getting totally confused now.
So Waitrose ARE putting in a planning application to build a supermarket on land behind the Library on Faringdon House land. Was this not the land that Tesco were told was part of a conservation area, or have I got it wrong. If so It seems quite biased against Tesco?

I also recall a few years ago, shop owners airing their concerns to Budgens that they were going to start selling flowers, newspapers etc when there were already shops selling those items in the town. Budgens told these shop keepers that there was room for all of them.
Budgens is now doing it again by putting in a cafe, when we already have cafes etc in the town. But ironically there is no room for another supermarket in the town. Surely this is double standards.

Hope my comments make sense
Name Supplied
Tesco/Waitrose etc. - 23/10/10

Again the town council is being confused with the district council.
For years Faringdon Town Council has sought another supermarket for Faringdon. The district council on the other hand published a report 18 months ago that claimed that Faringdon needed no more shops.

In my earlier posting i forgot to mention that Waitrose will be holding an exhibition to explain their ideas on 12th/13th November in the Jubilee Room at the Pump House.

They will also be making a presentation to the FTC planning & highways committee on the evening of 23rd. November in the Corn Exchange. All are welcome to attend, and as is the normal practice, you will be able to put your views.
Alan Hickmore, FTC Chair of Planning
I support Tesco and Waitrose - 23/10/10

Happy for both Tesco and Waitrose to do battle in Faringdon, two is better than one,(serious price competition) providing they both have FREE parking and the dentists still have their free parking(not lost to Waitrose).

Budgens, correct me, but now privately owned is it not? A gold mine, pull it down and build flats, the site must be worth a fortune, the owner can then move onto something bigger and better, but the car park will go!!!!!

If we get two supermarkets on the proposed sites I doubt the 'town shops' will survive, they will all have to become hairdressers and coffee shops, with no parking (when the VWHDC enforces the double yellow lines) who would stop to shop?
Name Supplied
Fashion through the Ages - 23/10/10

My Grand Daughter has just found a photograph of my sister taken 60 years ago. She was surprised to see she was wearing a Hoodie. I explained to her that in those far off days they were only worn by little girls, they were usually pink and were called Pixie Hoods.
So not so macho after all but I won‘t be the one to tell the yobs in the Town centre?
Anyone care to risk it ?
Name supplied
Waitrose, Tesco, Lidl. next ? - 23/10/10

At least we now know, whatever the other shy Town Councillors may think, that the FTC Chair of Planning seems to appreciate, what everybody else has known for ages, namely, that we need a major food retailer in our town.
Welcome to Faringdon in the 21st century
Name supplied
Expensive Waitrose - 23/10/10

I think the sad fact is that the only the well off can afford to shop in waitrose. So some of the Tesco knockers would be happy as you would have to live in one of the better areas off faringdon eg elm road type houses.
For the joe blogg eg town end road type locals whose income will not be suited to waitrose .

So I am guessing some of the local councillors will be only too happy for waitrose to come to faringdon. As it more up there street and income bracket than us mere mortals who shop in that common shop tescos.
Cheers
Name Supplied
Vote for Tesco - 23/10/10

Trading conditions for independent retailers are difficult, even in a beautiful historic town like Faringdon and the current objections to Tesco’s plan are from shopkeepers concerned about the competition that an out-of-town supermarket will pose, especially one which is able to offer free parking. The reality is that many local residents have taken to shopping outside of Faringdon, as an affordable alternative. Many have chosen to travel to Tesco at Swindon, Sainsburys at Wantage or resort to Tesco/Asda etc home deliveries. The entire length of the of A420 corridor between Swindon and Oxford does not have a single ‘big 4’ store between them.

There is no doubt that there is a gap in the market for a mid range supermarket in Faringdon and there are many struggling OAPS and low income families who desperately need a lower cost supermarket than the current provision. The restriction on keeping development to a defined town centre, should be waived to meet the public’s desire for a mid-range supermarket.

Just as the Coop has brought in new visitors to Stanford, Tesco will do the same. As the store is situated at the far end of the town the increased numbers of shoppers can only benefit the existing businesses in the town and reverse the steady increase in traffic trying to access the town. Furthermore if Tesco were to operate a three hours time limit in their car park. this would allow visitors much more time to visit the town stores and have a coffee at the thriving eateries in Faringdon thus avoiding having to pay the car parking charge imposed in the town's other car parks, managed by Vale District Council.

Tescos will offer employment, an attractive setting rather than the shabby and neglected site that it now is. Tesco is the people’s choice and I urge you to support the application.
Register your support for Tesco by joining the Facebook Group, 'I'd be happy for Tesco to come to Faringdon' or come along to the planning meeting on the 27 October!!
Name Supplied
Tesco- our councillors' views? - 23/10/10

We now know the planning officers have recommended refusal of planning permission for Tesco on Park Road.
It would be good to know what our local councillors views are?
On what basis have they formed this view?
Please tell us
Name Supplied
Tesco - 22/10/10

Trading conditions for independent retailers are difficult, even in a beautiful historic town like Faringdon and the current objections to Tesco’s plan are from shopkeepers concerned about the competition that an out-of-town supermarket will pose, especially one which is able to offer free parking. The reality is that many local residents have taken to shopping outside of Faringdon, as an affordable alternative. Many have chosen to travel to Tesco at Swindon, Sainsburys at Wantage or resort to Tesco/Asda etc home deliveries. The entire length of the of A420 corridor between Swindon and Oxford does not have a single ‘big 4’ store between them.

There is no doubt that there is a gap in the market for a mid range supermarket in Faringdon and there are many struggling OAPS and low income families who desperately need a lower cost supermarket than the current provision. The restriction on keeping development to a defined town centre, should be waived to meet the public’s desire for a mid-range supermarket. Just as the Coop has brought in new visitors to Stanford, Tesco will do the same. As the store is situated at the far end of the town the increased numbers of shoppers can only benefit the existing businesses in the town and reverse the steady increase in traffic trying to access the town.
Furthermore if Tesco were to operate a three hours time limit in their car park. this would allow visitors much more time to visit the town stores and have a coffee at the thriving eateries in Faringdon thus avoiding having to pay the car parking charge imposed in the town's other car parks, managed by Vale District Council.

Tescos will offer employment, an attractive setting rather than the shabby and neglected site that it now is. Tesco is the people’s choice and I urge you to support the application.
Register your support for Tesco by joining the Facebook Group, 'I'd be happy for Tesco to come to Faringdon' or come along to the planning meeting on the 27 October!!
Name Supplied
Lidl? - 22/10/10

New store rumour ? Any truth in the latest rumour I have heard in that Lidl want to open a store in town?
Name Supplied
Waitrose - 22/10/10

YES YES YES YES YES.

Waitrose will do fine!! They can use the entrance off the Lechlade road, where the old open air swimming pool used to be.

Thankyou Alan H for giving us some factual information

shophound
Tesco - 22/10/10

This is how it will play out in the end. Waitrose will arrive. Budgens closes and sells it's outlet to Tesco. Tesco expands Budgens's site into a Tesco Superstore with two story parking facilities.

This is just speculation on my part of course. One thing for certain either Waitrose or Tesco will be approved.
The squeeze is on Budgens like a ripe fruit.
Name Supplied
Race to infinity - have you voted yet?- 22/10/10

6.63%, 229 votes have been cast out of a total of 3,452
www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/
No Tesco - 22/10/10

The Chamber of Commerce/Focuson on Faringdon letter to the Vale reference the Tescos Planning Application can be read on www.FocusOnfaringdon.co.uk
Nick Elwell
Tesco/Waitrose - 22/10/10

I can confirm that Waitrose have taken an option to buy the site behind the library and will be putting in a planning application in November in order to develop the site as a 15,000sq.ft supermarket.
I talked with them today and explained the access and egress problems and the loss of a site in the consevation area along with possible congestion problems in the town centre. They are going away in order to come up with their best solutions.
Interesting times for Faringdon - it is good that major food retailers are taking an interest in the needs of our town.
Alan Hickmore
FTC Chair of Planning
Comments/suggestions re our GP Practices - 22/10/10

I'm going to an Oxfordshire Links meeting next week where we'll be identifying issues with GP practices. eg
- appointment availability
- appointment suitability
- Emergency appointments
- Practice nurse appointments
- post visit service
- How far in advance for appointments
- Automated booking system
- Using the internet for communication- eg blood test results, hospital letters

.............and any other points you feel are important

Do email me genewebb@rocketmail.com -your views needn't say which practice and won't be published on this site!
Tesco - 22/10/10

Is it possible that the reason the site by the library is being favoured by those supposedly in the know, is so that Tesco is voted against? Treatng us like children? I know it's a method I've used!
Yes we can do what my children want but we do it my way, and they soon change their mind!!
Name Supplied
supermarket near library- 22/10/10

By all means site a supermarket on the Faringdon House estate but please don't have delivery lorries or increased traffic coming down Gloucester Street; think of the children who travel to and from school, the implications of having to widen the access to the car park. the existing car parking nightmare on Gloucester Street.
Churn up some of the Faringdon House estate - we should be doing more to preserve our historic town centre rather than driving more heavy goods vehicles through the centre of it!!
Happy to lay down across the road for this one!!!
Name Supplied
no Tesco- 22/10/10

Surprise, surprise, no Tesco in Park Road!
I will continue to shop at Sainsbury in Wantage or Tesco in Abingdon and when I cannot get there I will shop on line. Therefore, I will not need to go into Faringdon, only as far as Park Road to the Health Centre.
Name Supplied
ED(GW) This is only the planning officers recommendations. It has yet to go to the Planning Committee where elected councillors will decide.
supermarket near the library - 22/10/10

can you imagine the congestion of traffic down gloucester street if this rumour is true. how unsafe it would be for children at the start and end of school with so much traffic and delivery lorries , its bad enough when budgens get a delivery and a car is parked in the way.
A truely rubbish idea, i can only see how this will hinder faringdon. i guess i will still be going to swindon (tesco/asda) for my regular shop.
a Tesco fan
supermarket near the library - 21/10/10

This sounds like the proposal which has been forward by the Faringdon House Estate. The only comment I would make is "Has anyone suggesting this location actually looked at the access to the suggested location?".

As I understand it, it would require access from the Gloucester Street car park for delivery lorries. The access road into the car park is *very* narrow and at school times that area is busy with children making their way to the Junior school by car, bicycle and on foot.

Adding supermarket delivery lorries into the mix is an accident waiting to happen.
Name Supplied
Re Waitrose rumour - 21/10/10

Well what we do know is that the Vale planners prefer the option of a supermarket in the region of Gloucester Street car park in the so-called 'Wilderness' owned by Faringdon House to the Tesco option on Park Road. (Born out by recent evidence).
So if Waitrose or another supermarket have made quiet overtures to the council that would not be surprising would it?

Honest John
Waitrose? - 21/10/10

If it's true then I think you'd be suprised if you think Waitrose is more expensive than Budgens !. It has always been thought of as a top end brand and that has made people think it's only for the well off !. It's very competitive with the other main supermarkets now (price matching etc) but has maintained a high standard in customer service, friendly helpful staff and store appearence.

I hadn't heard this rumour so will keep a look out !.
Name supplied
PLANNERS ? ? - 21/10/10

I also only scanned the Planner’s gobbledegook .
I skated over ‘sequential assessment‘, ‘Policy S1 of the adopted local plan and policy EC16 of PPS4‘, 'contrary to local plan policy E10 and policy ECH2 (h) of PPS4'and ‘more flexible retail formats‘, etc, etc, etc as I didn‘t understand all of them. Naturally mention of EC16 and ECH2(h) worried me as I fear the introduction of any artificial food additives.

I was intrigued by the mention of the council’s 'emerging core strategy' and couldn’t help wondering what is the Gestation period of a core strategy ?

I did however understand the bit that implied that the only way into the Town Centre was by, what they describe, as a low quality pedestrian route, known by residents as The Grotty Footpath, thus totally ignoring the Station Road/Marlborough St alternative which even the VWHDC Officers would have no difficulty locating if they ever visit Faringdon. I also noted that the same Officers seem to think that it is a long way from the Wicked Tesco site to the Vibrant Town Centre....IT ISN’T !
The misunderstanding is probably because they don't appreciate that, while driving down Marlborough Street is frowned upon, walking down it is OK. There is no necessity to go via Gravel Walk and Gloucester St.
I don't think that the VWHDC officers ever check this site. If they did they would understand that there is little real opposition to TESCO's apart from those traders with an understandable vested interest..
No amount of E numbers will alter that !
Name Supplied
ED(GW) Interesting too- if you go to http://planning.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?keyval=L2CX65BYC0000 and read the coments corrspondence, you'll see that many objectors come from villages around Faringdon. I wonder why someone in Hinton Waldrist felt inspired to object?
I understand too that the current government has suspended completion of 'Core Strategies', saying that there should be more local involvement- I guess 'emerging' means unfinished
Planning permission Waitrose? - 21/10/10

Does anyone know about Waitrose putting in planning permission to build a supermarket near the Library. Heard a rumour that the council are happy with this plan, because Waitrose is more expensive than Budgens, and therefore Budgens will not lose trade.
But I don't know if its just a story
Jacqui Massey
Tesco - VWHDC officers recommend refusal of application- 20/10/10

Recommendation that planning permission be refused for the following reasons:
1 The application site is situated in an out of centre location, outside Faringdon’s identified town centre area in the adopted local plan. In the opinion of the local planning authority, the site is poorly related to the town centre in terms of its distance and the low quality of the pedestrian routes which would link the site to the town centre. The provision of a supermarket in this location, remote from the town centre, will divert trade from the town centre which will have an adverse impact on the vitality and viability of the town centre. The proposal is therefore contrary to policy S1 of the adopted local plan and policy EC16 of PPS4.

2 In the opinion of the local planning authority, the applicant has failed to properly undertake a sequential assessment of alternative sites in or on the edge of Faringdon town centre, or investigate the use of more flexible retailing formats, as required by policy EC15 of PPS4. All potential alternative sites will be assessed as part of the council’s emerging core strategy and, as such, this application is considered to be premature in the context of the local development framework process.

3 The application site forms part of an established strategic general industrial employment site which is protected from development which would lead to the loss of existing business land and premises by policy E10 of the adopted local plan. The proposal involves the change of use of the application site to a retail use and is therefore contrary to local plan policy E10 and policy ECH2 (h) of PPS4.

Read the full report
ED(GW) I only scanned the report, but I didn't see any reference to comments on this site or through Facebook 'be happy for Tesco to come to Faringdon'
Faringdon and District Cricket Club (F&DCC) - Umpires wanted - 20/10/10

F&DCC requires umpires for the 2011 season.
We have two teams in different divisions of the league matches organized by the Oxfordshire Cricket Association (OCA.). The OCA requires member clubs to supply one umpire per team to officiate on designated Saturdays. You would therefore always be with another F&DCC umpire but would not be umpiring matches involving F&DCC or its divisions.
Generous expenses are paid.
If you, or someone you know, want to represent our progressive club, please contact Stuart Priest 01367 240118.
Broadband question- 20/10/10

A big thank you to slowcoach and anyone else who has taken the trouble to vote for faster broadband even if you don't need it yet. Your votes are extremely valuable and it is thanks to people such as yourselves who make things happen for those people who are held back by a lack of faster broadband.
Thank you and please keep the votes coming in and pass the word on.

Our current rank is 61 and we need to be in the top 5 to be selected. Those in the top 5 currently have votes at 22% of what is needed (Faringdon has 5% of votes needed).
Sarah Allen Stevens
www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/
Lost collie dog - 19/10/10

Sorry I don't know who's dog it is but it might be worth trying www.doglost.co.uk as they are one of the main sources for missing/found dogs.
I guess you've taken it to the vets to get it scanned for a chip ?.
Good luck - hope he/she is back with it's owners very soon.
Name Supplied
Lost collie dog - 19/10/10

Dear Faringdon,
It seems we have a lost dog in the area of The Swan. It is very well trained and well cared for.
Description: A small Collie cross, long hair mainly black with a White "collar". The face is a beautiful brown and black.
Is this your dog?
Call me on 01367 241120 or 0751 3000 390
Mike Perks
Broadband question- 19/10/10

Thanks for the quick answer. There was no irony in my question and in fact I voted immediately I became aware of the campaign.

I'm not a student, or a business. I'm a resident who uses the internet regularly but doesn't watch movies or play games, and I imagine quite lot of us fall into the same category, i.e. who aren't aware of any congestion or particular lack of services, whatever they may be, and so wonder what it all means.

If I was tempted to move away from Faringdon though, it wouldn't be the lack of faster broadband influencing the decision.

slowcoach
Faster Broadband - 19/10/10

A simple answer to the question about broadband upgrade, the campaign is to get BT to install fibre optic into the exchange in Faringdon. This is effectively a bigger and faster broadband pipe which will ease the congestion. Currently, the maximum broadband speed we can get is 8Mbps and fibre optic can provide broadband up to 50Mbps.

Faringdon is not blessed with alternative broadband providers, such as Virgin Media who operate in Wantage. Virgin provide broadband speeds in excess of 20 Mbps and also offer many other services over the internet that we, in Faringdon, are unable to use. It is true that if we don't know what we are missing then we don't tend to miss it. But we also need to take account of the businesses, students and residents who do know what they are missing may ultimately choose to live, study or set up businesses elsewhere.

We need to make sure that Faringdon remains as future proof as the rest of the country and does not get left behind.
Hope this helps.
Sarah Allen-Stevens
Ed(GW) 177 votes, 5.13%. 09.09 todaywww.racetoinfinity.bt.com/
Community Message from Thames Valley Police -18/10/10

Happy Halloween,
I am John Turner the inspector for Faringdon and I would like to inform you of what your local neighbourhood policing team and local partners are doing during the Halloween and firework celebrations.

My team will be carrying out patrols in the evenings to make sure people who are trick or treating are doing so in a friendly manner and not causing a nuisance.

I know for some people this time of year can be a bother as your evenings are interrupted with people knocking on your doors for treats.

Most of these children or teenagers are just getting involved in the Halloween celebrations and will be friendly.

At any point if you feel unsafe:
* Don’t open your door if you’re unsure who is there. Use your spy-hole, look out of a window, and use your door chain if you do decide to open your door.
* Have a contact number of a close relative or good neighbour to hand by your telephone, just in case you need to phone them.
* If you are part of a Neighbourhood Watch scheme, let your coordinator know that you will be on your own at Halloween.

If you are a coordinator, please identity people in your scheme that may be vulnerable and offer them reassurance.
Thames Valley Police will not tolerate any anti-social behaviour at any time of the year. To report anti-social behaviour contact the Thames Valley Police non-emergency number on 0845 8 505 505. In an emergency dial 999
Dumping rubbish- 14810/10 .

Unfortunately there are some very lazy residents who think the answer to their recyling problem is to dump large quantities of unsorted rubbish in other people's bins - in the early hours of the morning someone came and dumped 2 black bin bags of garden waste in my grey 'rubbish' bin!!!
The operators who emptied the bin, complained that it was becoming an increasing problem.
Name Supplied
Legal Scrumping in Faringdon- 18/10/10

Whatever next, are you trying to take the art out of "scrumping".
This took years of practice, growing up in Marlbourgh Gardens with Tuckers fields around.
We began "scrumping" cherries first at the top of the football field. We would then move onto damsons, plums and apples later on in the year from gramps orchard ( Charles Stallard the rag and bone man).
We may have had holes in the seat area of our shorts but we could still get a few pounds of fruit down the front of our shirts.

We were pretty lucky CCTV wasn't around then, although if we were caught we would receive a good clip around the ear.
The good old days, yes, they certainly were.
Roger Stallard
Broadband - 17/10/10

Am I alone?? I didnt realise we had broadband problems in Faringdon. What am I missing?

slowcoach
Broadband campaign- simple question - 17/10/10

Simple Question: If this were to come to Faringdon, what would it do for the Faringdon exchange congestion when all the young people come home from school and the adults start to log on to watch the TV programs they have missed?

Is super high speed broadband really the answer to our broadband problems in Faringdon?
Hope someone who is genuinely knowledgeable can answer this question please.
Name Supplied
Many more votes needed - broadband campaign. - 17/10/10

Pity the mad 5 or whatever, trading as the Vale of White Horse, did not advertise this: Many more votes needed - broadband campaign. In their ill conceived publicity handout to every address in Faringdon. There is just the possibility that if they had been forward thinking, their own campaign may have won the hearts of the mind !!!! Right now, they don't deserve my business.

Tesco, no it's not the best, Morrisons would have been much better, but anything is better than Budgens who arn't actually Budgens in Faringdon, just a franchise which adds to your cost!!!!!!

Glad to see that the sensible folk at Cost Cutter, who probably have most to lose out of the Tesco site have been VERY professional and kept out of this nonsense been perpretrated by a few of the shop owners in the centre of Faringdon.
Come on, give me a deal that makes me shop in Faringdon, not London prices, stop winging, get me free parking (legally, not on double yellow lines) then I will be more than happy to support your busnesses.
Name Supplied
Bad parking by church goers - 17/10/10

I am shocked and also amazed that every sunday I come back from witney to find double parking by lazy church goers . To the point that if a fire engine needed to access a fire etc on the radcot road they would not be able to get there in a hurry .
So if him upstairs is looking down on you and you cause a person to die because the fire service etc not being able to pass your badly park car . That I hope in the future you will use the thing your leader gave to you for moving around EG your legs to get to church.
Yours
Name Supplied
CCTV - 17/10/10

I have nothing to hide either and would prefer the right to continue to do so rather then having someone invent something I cannot do. I used to like a pint in the evening stood outside the pub an a quiet hot evening, banned. I might sneeze as I walk passed and be acused of spitting chewing gum - its happened, no defence as it 'is on film' - etc etc.
This nothing to hide arguement is rather thin from my point of view. Much of the ill disapline these cameras are for used to be controled by local natural justice. However that is banned as is old fashion policing as the new system is 'better', except it isn't as the purpetraters continue to do it since no one takes direct responsibility on the ground. Before a few 'warnings' sorted most folks out. You cannot do this at arms length.

CCTV sounds like another very good reason to not go into the centre of town for my own personal reasons and becouse it is now earmarked as a dodgy area not policed effectively.
Just what we need really. Tesco please.
Alan Hitchcock
Lost dog - 17/10/10

Dear Faringdon,
It seems we have a lost dog in the area of The Swan. It is very well trained and well cared for. Description: A small Collie cross, long hair mainly black with a White "collar".
The face is a beautiful brown and black. Is this your dog? Call me on 01367 241120 or 0751 3000 390
Mike Perks
Tesco- 14/10/10.

I cannot wait for Tesco to come to Faringdon - I shop every week in their Abingdon store - I did a weekly shop in Budgens back when we had all the snow not only did it cost an EXTRA £45 I could'nt get all I needed and I don't mean just bread and milk!
Name Supplied
Many more votes needed - broadband campaign. - 16/10/10

170 votes, 4.92% at 16.26 today
Do get your family and friends to vote.
I hope all the businesses in Faringdon have voted - it's in their interest to 'wire' Faringdon
Gene Webb
Traffic monitor - 16/10/10

There's also a cable across the road between Budgens and White Horse Bookshop, Marlborough St
Gene Webb
Too Good to be True - 16/10/10

Is the news about a CCTV camera checking on illegal parking in the London St area genuine or just wishful thinking
If genuine it could result in a reduction in our Council Tax.
And for those who might claim it is 1984 Big Brotherism I maintain that I, for one, have nothing to hide.
Except my identity on this site of course.
Name Supplied
CCTV - 16/10/10

Actually, its a transport survey camera, monitoring The Market Place. Perhaps, at long last something may be done about the Market Place layout and traffic problems

name supplied.
CCTV - 16/10/10

Camera outside Blockbusters might be for catching John Ottway?
Alan Hitchcock
CCTV - 16/10/10

CCTV is to help with cut down the crime in faringdon & to do instant double yellow line parking fines in the town center & London street..
Name Supplied
Legal Scrumping in Faringdon on Sunday 17th October- 16/10/10

- starts at 2pm after your Sunday Lunch through to 4pm or until when the Apples have all gone! +++ help me raise much needed money for Breast Cancer Research

Two BIG FAT BURSTING Bramley Apple Trees - Although I value my Brown Garden Recycling Bin which I have now filled 3 times now with Windfall Apples - It is SUCH a waste - should be for Cooking NOT Compost!!! So on Sunday 17th October it is "Faringdon's Legal Scrumping Day" from 2pm to 4pm - Bring your blankets or sheets to catch the apples - I have a stepladder - If you have a walking stick, hooked umbrella, long hook or pole or one of those long branch loppers to shake the upper branches then bring them!!! I think they are Bramley Cooking Apples, Green but on the side near the Sun VERY Rosy Red - Bramley apples work well in pies, cooked fruit compotes and salads, crumbles, and other dessert dishes. They are also used in a variety of chutney recipes, as well as in cider making. Whole Bramley apples, cored and filled with dried fruit, baked, and then served with custard is an inexpensive and traditional British pudding. Cooked apple sauce is the traditional accompaniment to roast pork. Hot apple sauce goes very well with ice cream.

Optional but not a mandatory donation please to the fundraising campaign we are doing where I work ... Breast Cancer Research .... so everyone wins! Scrumping Location 36 Coxwell Street, Faringdon SN7 7HA - Location is nearly opposite the advertising hoarding with a M&S Redtime Story (Lady in Red M&S Lingerie)Find the little Red Brick house with the 4 White Windows and the wrought iron side gate.

Just a thought - I am decluttering my undie's drawers tomorrow to recyle all my Bras that I don't wear to raise funds at £1 per kilo for Breast Cancer Research - via the www.BreastTalk.co.uk Bra Appeal! Bras goes to people that need some uplift in UK and mainly Africa and money goes to Breast Cancer Research -so Bring your old Bra's to add to mine - help me raise money for Charity and collect loads of apples !! -
any enquiries please to teresareynolds@btinternet.com or 07825 971855
Thanks Teresa
Bloke on Scooter - 16/10/10

I have not encountered the Begging Lady with the dog - but it's ok she can knock on MY door as much as she likes - I NEVER answer my door at ANY time unless I have a pre arranged appointment or I know a friend or neighbour is "incoming" - BUT I have a problem ref SCOOTERMAN - I think he has been watching too much daytime TV with all the adverts for no win no fee - Have you had a fall or injury that we can help you claim DAMAGES for - SCOOTERMAN insists on trying to position himself in the roadways of Faringdon and then move forward towards me under scooter power so that we have an eventual impact and he will then obviously say - They HIT ME - and poor little "disabled me" fell off my mobility scooter and hurt myself - I should feel sorry for him but I am disabled too and I am not pissed when I am driving my Mobility Aid -

"My Scooter" has a camera which I can use in my car in reverse escape mode from Scooterman - so I don't harm him or myself or any other cars or pedestrians - BUT I don't hit SCOOTERMAN either.

By the way I DO hope you recyle your drink cans (the ones you have in your hand when driving your mobility scooter, while not holding the handlebars) in an environmentally friendly manner. By the way next time you try and RAM me again I will be looking at the rear view reversing camera while holding up my video camera with the hand that is not steering (NB not my phone because that is illegal) to prove that you are trying to make a buck or three out of Car Driver Rams Disabled Scooterman!!!
Name Supplied
Child friendly Guy Fawkes night - 15/10/10

Roves Farm are doing a child-friendly bonfire night, starting early and no loud bangs. It's near Sevenhampton/Highworth so not very far.
http://www.rovesfarm.co.uk/eventsactivities/page37/page37.html
Rebecca DuPlessis
lloyds tsb . - 15/10/10

Annoying that they charge but why should a bank do free work for somebody who isn't a customer ?. We already have free use of the cashpoints if you aren't a customer but to expect a cashier to spend time working for free for another banks customer seems unfair. A bit like going to Mings for your chinese and then up to Rainbow to ask for free chips !.

We have two banks in the town and I hope we can keep them - the only way to do this though is for people to have their accounts there. You could always try going into shops in town with bags of loose change and see if they will be happy to spend time counting it out for your shopping !.
Name supplied
re lloyds tsb change issue. - 15/10/10

Budgens will change your change for you (in small amounts) so will the p.o and dillons and they wont charge either some small companys have to pay to have change delivered so i bet they would be gratfull for some change
Name Supplied
CCTV? - 14/10/10

Whats with the c.c.t.v put all round town anybody know perhaps there looking for the person delivering the leaflets round town
Anybody else know why they are there
Name Supplied
Camera outside Blockbusters? - 14/10/10

Anyone know what the new camera is for outside BlockBusters?
Name Supplied
Dogs in the SWAN - 14/10/10

The landlady of the swan has indeed go an dog, she keeps it locked out the back howling all evening. I can hear it from my house.
Name Supplied
YES ! More Broadband ! - 14/10/10

OK, so this was the first I had heard of this race for faster broadband, it has not yet been well publicised anywhere!!!!!
I have voted for Faringdon as requested, but I have to say there are some far more 'needy' places. My line speed cap in Faringdon is 8.1 meg and I pay f2s around £15 a month for this.
I have another broadband line at another site with BT, my line speed cap there is BELOW 0.5 meg and cost me a similar £15 a month.
The exchange for the other site has 15,000 subscribers and only 0.49% have voted, probably because they have not heard of the 'race' either.
So all in all Faringdon, our broadband is OK, that is until evening, when it is rubbish, but that is a BT line congestion problem, not an ISP issue.

Wonder if VOWHDC could use the next Section 106 agreement money (maybe from the TESCO development) to fund high speed broadband in Faringdon? if they know where Faringdon is!!!!!
Name Supplied
Tesco Leaflet- 14/10/10.

i cant see why the people who got involved with the bogus leaflet have any thing to worry about, Tesco wont be doing haircuts, selling painted sticks, sweets by the quarter, or £100 handbags,
I see budgens want a cafe in their new plans, what about the cafe we already have, budgens wont worry about taking there trade, seems to me everyone who wants a Tesco, don’t shop at budgens any way,
i have lived here 25 years, and have not done a full shop at budgens/carters yet, i go to Swindon.
Name Supplied
Green Bin Gray Bin Food Bin- 14/10/10 .

Since the new collection service started 4/10/10 we still have not had any waste collected. 3 phone calls , 2 emails and still nothing collected.
Name Supplied
Green wheelie bins - 14/10/10

:- i havent had mine emptied either and they can,t say they have as im on asssisted collection ,ive rang them every day since monday twice a day and you sit in a cue for nearly a hour each time as the message say they are experiencing a high call volume i wonder why?so i wait patientally only to be told its in hand.
can,t fit any more in and they won,t take it if you put it lose bring back the old way of doing it i say it,s a joke they did,nt empty my black one either mind you when they said they would pick it tuesday to me on monday i did forget to ask which tuesday and what year
Sandra Saunter
YES ! More Broadband ! - 14/10/10

We have just over 200 non-residential 01367 subscribers as well as more than 3200 residential in our area
A careful study of this website visitor statistics on the home page may tell high IQ posters exactly how many individuals enjoy this site but to me the information is as much value as a chocolate teapot
However I know the answer may be summed up as "A LOT"
So why have we only had less than 200 votes cast ?

ED(GW) provides you all with a fantastic service so why not show a little appreciation by doing as she asks and
VOTE ! !
Name supplied
ED(GW) 145 votes, 4.2%
Guy Fawkes night - 14/10/10

With Guy Fawkes night approaching, can anyone recommend a local fireworks display suitable for children. ie not too late in the evening.
Thanks.
ED(GW) Have a look at http://faringdon.org/nvwhatson.htm
Yes - dogs allowed in the Swan- 13/10/10

Thanks Andrea for the info on the Swan.
My other half and I will have to try it out...with the four legged fiend in tow :) I've been told they do a good selection of real ales which should keep my partner happy....and quiet!
Sam
Infamous leaflet- 13/10/10

So the infamous leaflet issued by some gutless wonders using The Vale Of White Horse Logo has backfired big time. No-one will take responsibilty for this piece of garbage that was circulated to other towns and villages giving them a great laugh at our town and no doubt having them rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of gaining more business from disaffected Faringdon residents.

Well done the organisers of this inaccurate leaflet, top marks for shooting your selves in both feet, or between the eyes, thus missing your brains by 6 feet; or 5 feet if the suspected culprit whose fingerprints are all over the piece is indeed the guilty party.

Those retailers who allowed themselves to be associated with this failed stunt should hang their heads in shame for their stupidity and luddite views.
I for one will never again give them my business they have trashed our town and deserve to go out of business asap.
Name Supplied
Ken Stickley- 13/10/10

It is with regret that I inform Faringdon that Ken Stickley has passed away.
The funeral will be held at All Saints Church, Faringdon on Wednesday October 20th at 12pm
Sally Thurston
More votes needed - broadband campaign. - 13/10/10

We desperately need more votes for the Faringdon exchange on www.racetoinifinity.bt.com/home.
If you haven't voted, please could you vote. You don't need to be a BT customer and you aren't committing yourself to faster broadband but you are helping Faringdon to move into the 21st century.

Please tell your friends, parents, children - anyone who can help to spread the word, place a vote and has an 01367 prefix. Our ranking is currently 53 and we need to be in the top 5, like Blewbury, who are currently ranked #3 with 14% of their votes accounted for.
The campaign finishes on 31st Dec 2010 - your votes and ideas for promoting this campaign would be very much appreciated.
Sarah Allen Stevens
ED(GW) 135 votes, 3.91% at 15.30
Yes - dogs allowed in the Swan- 13/10/10

Yes, dogs are welcome in the Swan.
I checked on Sun night, then two came in right on cue as if to prove it! Apparently the land lady has one.
Lovely, clean pub, great beer and snacks and a wonderful lack of irritating 'piped music'.
Recommend a visit.
Andrea
LLoyds Bank. - 13/10/10

Ten pounds, ten coins, one note, five pound charge...I do hope you suggested where they could put the note!

Name Supplied
Tesco - 13/10/10

There are over 400 people on Facebook supporting Tesco coming to Faringdon.
See http://www.facebook.com/pages/Id-be-happy-for-Tescos-to-come-to-Faringdon/151529074882400.
I hope they have all commented on the application here: PublicAccess v7.4 @ Vale Of White Horse District Council: Application Details (10/00867/FUL)
Sheila
LLoyds Bank. - 12/10/10

I read that the bank is going to charge you to change your coins. Then I thought - don't they charge local shops/businesses to obtain small change? So wouldn't it be a better idea if local shops could change small quantities for you. Obviously not lots and lots of bags otherwise they would spend all day counting! They would benefit by not paying for change and you can save yourself a journey to Swindon etc.
Would any shops be interested in this idea?
Rachel
Re LLoyds Tsb. - 12/10/10

I was also told i would have to pay a charge to change some loose coin in to a note. ten coins, ten pound, note 5.00 charge.
so it aint just budgens pushing us out of town to shop the banks as well
Name Supplied
Begging lady with dog - 12/10/10

This is for the comments about the begging lady and the bloke in the scooter. I do believe he has now been reported by myself and others for hanging around by the schools. Keeps trying to grab children on their way out of school, mainly the juniors and infants. It's getting beyond a joke now my children are scared of going out he got the wheelchair on his side. if people see him there to ring the police asap.
Something needs to be done
Thanx
Name Supplied
well well well still homeless - 12/10/10

council are useless last meeting i had i was told "dont count on geting any where any time soon" that was nice of them, but what gets me is im homeless wanting somewhere to have my children and some one i know still liveing with there parents and and get offerd a 2 bed flat in swindon ??????? some one please explain this to me
Rob Stanton
Green wheelie bins - 12/10/10

We too have not had our bin emptied, but in our case Verdant's records show that it was emptied. Sally Wilson, Verdant's mouthpiece at the Vale claims that it is policy to accept the electronic data rather than the word of the injured party. Here is what she said in her email

"I attach a copy of yesterday's collection record for your property. You will see it records for 15 Bennett Road the emptying of the 240 litre recycling bin at 10:11 and weighing 18kg. I have also attached the collection record for 14 Bennett Road, which shows their bin as emptied at 10:14 and weighing 9.5kg. The bins contain micro-chips, which contain a number that links the bins to specific properties. When the bins are emptied, the chips are read and the time, weight and whether recycling or refuse bin, are recorded on the database against the relevant property. The call centre explained that you have checked the address labels on your bins and they are correct to your property. I am satisfied that these records show that your recycling bin was emptied yesterday and am therefore unable to instruct the contractor to return".

So much the new waste collection system. Has anyone else had a similar experience.
Andrew Marsden
regarding the fat dog - 12/10/10

Has anyone seen the size of the fat cat in the crown it could feed a whole entire army for a year
P.s i am told its not fat it is just the breed it is
Name Supplied
LLoyds Bank. - 12/10/10

I have been to the bank this morning to change some money, it was only a small amount of coins, I was asked if I had an account at the bank, when I said no I was then informed I would be charged £5.00 to change the coins!
So now I have to go to Wantage or Swindon where my bank is.
Well done again the businesses of Faringdon for pushing customers out of town!
Name Supplied
Votes are increasing - broadband campaign. - 11/10/10

124 votes have been cast out of a total of 3,452, 3.59%
www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/home
Begging lady with dog - 11/10/10

concerning the lady begging with brown dog my partner was approached by her and still owes us £5 told us she wanted it for electric her and the man on the scooter are a menances a specially him he hangs round in the town and accosting the women so be wary of him.
So faringdon be aware
Name supplied
Green wheelie bins - 12/10/10

I took great pleasure in regaining an empty recycling bin after collecting contents since the bins were issued. My normal rubbish has not yet filled a plastic sack in the sametime.
It does feel like the system will be more effective in dealing with waste. Hopefully the teething problems and folks without front gardens or storage space can sort out a solution that works perfectly too.
Am I lucky is this system actually a good one?
Alan Hitchcock
Tesco - 12/10/10

Bill, thanks for reply. I agree with you pretty much down the line.
The debate is only constructive if it deals with facts. Both sides seem lacking in them and if there is a serious wish to present a case an 'experiment' on pricing would be pretty useful if conducted correctly and without bias. Like most issues when facts are required the frequancy of postings does seem to dry up. Depends how important you feel the topic is. If I had a business interest in the town I would be looking for factual evidence to present against the planned shop. I would also look to make a positive if I lost against the planning, like gaining free parking.
Seems pretty simple to me, failure means you rely on other people. Like yourself I am not motivated to research the topic myself.
Alan Hitchcock
Folly Halloween- Cancelled - 12/10/10

For this year only - due to building works
Sorry!!
Gene Webb
Roadworks on A420 at Buckland:- 12/10/10

Like many others I was badly delayed heading home tonight. The OCC website reveals that the works, near the BP garage at Buckland, will continue until at least Saturday.
To avoid:
Leaving Faringdon towards Oxford, take the A417 out of Faringdon towards Stanford, and then turn left on the B4508 through Hatfield and Pusey to rejoin the A420 east of the works.
Coming towards Faringdon from Oxford, turn left onto the B4508 through Pusey and Hatfield until you meet the A417 and turn right towards Faringdon.
This detour adds 2 miles to your journey but will save a lot of time sitting in traffic wasting fuel.
Delay tonight was in the order of 20+ minutes at peak hour.
The culprit is Wales & West Utilities - not sure what they are doing yet, or when we were warned about it...
Peter McGurk
Green wheelie bins not emptied - 12/10/10

just wondering if anybody knows why 5 of the green wheelie bins (recycle) were not emptyed today at clocktower court between number 17 and 22 yet they seemed to empty all the others but just walked past ours . my bin is full up and as i have nowhere else to put my recycles i will just have to throw them in to my grey bin!!!
John Townsend
Votes are increasing - broadband campaign. - 11/10/10

111 votes, 3.2%
www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/home
Tesco prices- 11/10/10

I was one of the culprits making flippant responses to Chloe's post. She did not in fact answer any question about pricing, but for the most part made unsubstantiated claims and innuendo, and 'proposed an experiment'. Such posts invite flippancy. Perhaps you should take it less seriously, there was no malice intended.

The locally expected Tesco is not one of the largest types, but not the smaller 'local' ones either. If you really are that bothered about price comparisons, then make a shopping list and drive around checking it all out, that's the only way you'll be sure, and even then remember that prices change daily/weekly so you'll have to make several trips and note the average difference.

Personally I couldn't really care less whether Tesco comes here or not, but what I do become mildly irritated about is suggestion masquerading as fact, (on either side) which is then taken up by gullible people and repeated as though it were gospel. It adds nothing to the debate.

Bill
Dogs allowed in the Swan?- 11/10/10

I was just wondering if anyone knew if dogs were welcome in The Swan.
Sam
Fantastic Fat Dog - 11/10/10

I have been to the Fat Dog restaurant twice and the food is absolutely fantastic, so if you want a treat go and try it - fab
Name Supplied
On Face book? - Spread the word to vote for High Speed broadband for Faringdon

I'm not a regular Facebook or Twitter user - but I expect lots of you are.
Please get people to vote on www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/home
The numbers are growing!!
Gene Webb
Such a great start to the broadband campaign. - 11/10/10

I've just voted (#75).
We desperately need faster broadband otherwise we will be left behind to other towns, such as Wantage, Highworth etc.. (i.e any town not using an 01367 prefix).
Lack of broadband speed will ultimately affect those people purchasing houses or starting/relocating their business or even setting up a shop.
If there's £5k of equipment in it for a school - bring it on....

As a community, we achieved spectacular results getting broadband to the area in 2001/2002 - let's do it again!
Sarah Allen-Stevens
ED(GW) Vote on www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/home At 11.13 11/10/10 we have 87 votes . 2.52% of total

Begging lady with dog - 11/10/10

I thought that i should put a posting on to warn people that the begging lady with the brown labrador is back and taking her begging to a new level.

On Friday (8/10) evening I witnessed her and a gentleman on a mobilty scooter going along Park Road knocking on people's doors and asking for money. I confronted her to tell her to stop and that I was calling the police. I have since heard that she carried on along Park Road and neighbouring roads begging, saying that she was locked out and needed 5p towards her fare to get to Wantage to get a Key cut.

Please everyboby be aware that this is not the case and she merely wants it for alcohol. If she should ask you for money either at your door or in the street, please, please report it to the poilce as she has been arrested and warned about this before.
Name Supplied
Shop prices- 11/10/10

Very interesting. Chloe has hit a raw nerve over pricing.
We have two 'name supplied' messages offering fippant or rude answers to a legitimate question, what are you hiding? No factual response?
We have one reply offering information which does not answer the question, but thank you as it is an answer. So that would be a failure to counter Chloe's arguement at the moment. Having made the point it is up to those who believe that prices will be substantually cheaper to provide a case to support their claims and not the other way round.
Without that information an informed opinion cannot be formed. I happy to remain undecided as to if I am for or against but at the moment no is winning.
Convince me otherwise.
Alan Hitchcock
Re broadband - 11/10/10

The word is spreading fast. Less than an hour after I put my (58th) vote we had another 10.
Keep going. I can't believe that BT think that Faringdon is not commercially viable enough to be on their list for fast broadband.
Secretly, another reason to vote for a big business such as Tesco's.
Name Supplied
ED(GW) Vote on www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/home At 08.47 11/10/10 we have 69 votes . 2% of total
Tesco- 10/10/10

"Tesco just want to undercut the nearest walking-distance competitor by the slimmest margin possible to entice custom.
They can save more money by employing very few staff at the smaller branches.
In the local shops, the checkouts are usually unmanned while a lone member of staff stocks shelves, leaving you to fight with the self-checkout machines and wait several minutes if alcohol purchases require "approval" or when you find that the bagging area contains no bags - bags which are so thin and cheaply made they can barely carry a bottle of wine for a 2-minute walk."


Goodness me. Chloe has been a busy girl. I wonder how she knows all these 'facts'. She must shop a lot at Tesco local stores. Perhaps she's cross because her bottle of wine got broken when it fell out of one of those flimsy bags. My advice? Take your own bags, Chloe, or drink the wine straight away.

name supplied
Shop prices- 10/10/10

It is quite easy to pick out items which are cheaper, or more expensive, than the local store depending on which way you wish to bias your argument, but for those who need to, are interested enough, or even enjoy comparing shop prices, here are a couple of comparison sites.

http://www.supermarket.co.uk/index.html

will show you special offers etc; and this one

http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk

allows you to compare your own choice 'shopping basket' across a range of supermarket prices.

I imagine that the Tesco prices will be those of it's larger stores, but I doubt there will be a very great difference. (The proposed store for Faringdon is bigger than an 'Express', smaller than a 'Superstore') Neither of the comparison sites will allow you to compare prices with our local Budgens, but you'll just have to take your list and do it yourself.

Shophound
Tesco - 10/10/10

As the new Tesco (should it ever materialise) will be so awful/badly stocked/understaffed/overpriced/tiny/and with only one checkout open, what has Budgens got to worry about?

name supplied
Tesco prices- 10/10/10

I fear Chloe has answered my question over Budgon/Tesco local shop pricing and to the negative of those who expect 'el cheapo' prices on the doorstep. I too think pricing will not be 'cheap'. Going further would you find the same thing if you went to a large Budgons, very likely.
This factor rather undermines much of the pro debate.

I return to my suggestion either a new supermarket should be a really good big one or perhaps we are better off without it. An additional top up shop is of no real benefit, especially if it is enough to drive away the options offered by specialist shops.
Certainly the Town should require some benefit for allowing a new supermarket to come in. This is totally normal. I believe it should include a free parking scheme for the town centre as previously argued.
Alan Hitchcock
Transport Consultation - Oxon County - 10/10/10

Have a read of http://myconsultations.oxfordshire.gov.uk/inovem/gf2.ti/f/6274/17349.1/pdf/-/Chapter%2022%20%20Faringdon.pdf
This describes how the County views Faringdon and it's transport needs.

You can email your views on this to localtransportplan@oxfordshire.gov.uk or through the website

Gene Webb
Tesco prices- 10/10/10

Tesco

As the new Tesco (should it ever materialise) will be so awful/badly stocked/understaffed/overpriced/tiny/and with only one checkout open, what has Budgens got to worry about?

name supplied
Tesco prices- 9/10/10

For those of you who are hoping a new Tesco in Faringdon will be significantly cheaper than Budgens, I propose a little experiment.
Drive up to the large Tesco on the edge of Swindon or Oxford and make a note of some prices. Then head to one of Tesco's smaller "local" shops in the same town. You'll find the same goods are often around 20% more expensive or worse. Which do you expect a small-to-medium shop in Faringdon to be?
Tesco just want to undercut the nearest walking-distance competitor by the slimmest margin possible to entice custom. They can save more money by employing very few staff at the smaller branches. In the local shops, the checkouts are usually unmanned while a lone member of staff stocks shelves, leaving you to fight with the self-checkout machines and wait several minutes if alcohol purchases require "approval" or when you find that the bagging area contains no bags - bags which are so thin and cheaply made they can barely carry a bottle of wine for a 2-minute walk.
I would love more shopping choice in Faringdon. I was embarrassed recently when friends from Oxford visited Faringdon at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon (surely a peak shopping time for most high streets) and were surprised that most of the shops were shut. But Tesco don't plan to be a panacea for Faringdon, only their own profit margins.
Chloe
New School? - 9/10/10

I seem to think I heard mention of a possible school being built along park road. Anybody know anything?
We are going to be desperate for a school very soon if Faringdon keeps growing at the speed it is.
Name Supplied
Vote for high speed broadband now ! - 910/10


Just for once all TP posters can agree on something. A very rare if not unique happening !
Super high speed broadband would be great.

So do as Gene suggests.
Forget about Tescos, dogmess, budgets and bus shelters for two minutes and vote for it.


HGM
ED(GW) Now 27 votes - but we need loads more
High Speed Broadband for Faringdon - we need to vote - 8/10/10

I've only just learned about this......
Over the next five years BT is rolling out superfast fibre optic broadband across the UK. If you're not on the announced roll out plan The Race to Infinity gives you the opportunity to fast track your area to get BT Infinity next.
The five areas with the largest percentage of votes by December 31st 2010 will win the chance to bring superfast broadband to their area. BT will also donate £5,000 of computer equipment to a local community project. Whether you're big on social networking, gaming, streaming, uploading or downloading, prepare to have your life transformed with superfast speeds.

To vote simply go to 'VOTE NOW' (www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/home)and enter your details. Don't forget to pass it on to your friends on Facebook and Twitter to get your area to the top of the scoreboard.

We've only got 13 votes out of over 3400!!!!

I guess they're collecting mailing list data too - but you can tick a box that says 'no offers etc'
Gene Webb
Community First Responders needed in Faringdon - 8/10/10

Community First Responders are volunteers who are trained by the Ambulance Service to a nationally recognised level and provide life saving treatment to people in their local communities.
Community First Responders are always backed up with the nearest available emergency ambulance.

If you think you might be interested in joining the team we would love to hear from you.
Please call Gof Smith on 07799 8800 91
Faringdon as a destination centre.- 8/10/10

Yes I did incude the undertakers as a destination shopping experience - sorry I didn't intend the pun.
I know that the list is tedious, but I think it does show that Faringdon is not the dead or dying town that seems to be the perception of some.
It is very possible that the coming of Tesco could even help to expand the retail offer in our town. Many retailers are likely to think "if Tesco (the countries most successful retailer) can make money there - so can we".
It is very important that we take positive action to show what a wide variety of shops that we have rather than the gloom and despair that some seem to be being promoted.
"The evidence" shows that a thriving and diverse shopping center will benefit from edge of town development such as is proposed - so let's demonstrate that that is what we have.
(These are my views and not necessarily those of FTC).
Alan Hickmore
VWHDC preferred supermarket site option- 8/10/10

I have previously mentioned twice on this site my curiosity/disquiet at the obscurity surrounding the reasons for the district council's 'preferred option' for a retail site.

The planning process may well be in chaos, but that is no excuse for the total lack of communication from our three district councillors.

If there IS a preferred option, then there are reasons; our councillors will be aware of them and we should be told what they are. I know they read this forum, so let's hear some facts from the horses' mouths please, otherwise there may well be grounds for wondering what vested interests are at work behind the scenes.

name supplied
Re "tesco has such a bad reputation, with everything" - 8/10/10

Tom issued the challenge to us Tescos supporters to look at any online papers to justify his unfair statement that Tescos has a bad reputation. I looked at his suggested link only to find out that the story is 3 years old. So, I thought I'd google budgens and look what I found with ease.
This is only a year old: http://www.midhurstandpetworth.co.uk/news/Budgens-store-in-Midhurst-fined.5712326.jp
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Vale "Surveys" - 8/10/10

I was interested to see the surveys which collect information on our views of the VWHDC services. These surveys are not in fact published by the Vale Council, but by Conservative party councillors, as stated.

As one with years of experience in market research, I can tell you that the collection of names and addresses is quite unnecessary on these forms. Names and addresses of respondents are collected on market research surveys only for the purpose of moderating the interviewers' performance and in this case the forms are self- completed, and you cannot send more than one of each from the same IP address.

The most interesting item, however, is the last. You are requested to state your political preference - also your address and you cannot send the form without completing this.

Far from merely "...ensuring a representative sample.." (which is quite easily done depending on your sampling method) this is a crude and transparent method of collecting information about you which can be used for party political purposes.

Politically Neutral Observer
re businesses in Faringdon- 7/10/10

Just a note hijacking Alan Hickmore's last posting.
Of the 80 businesses mentioned, how many are in the town centre? There are businesses in that list well positioned to take advantage of increased retail activity in Park Road and along the A417, now the main road in Faringdon whether you like it of not. Some enterprizing land owner might decide to redevelop land into an arcade of shops if there was a Supermarket pulling in trade adjacent with free parking which he could add to. That would continue the logical shift of retail to the best place for doing business in the Town.

Overpricing the existing business area is not a stratagy that can succeed against that should it start and nothing else changes. Several of the existing 'out of town' businesses exist in part as they offer free parking now. I wonder if they would survive otherwise, indeed I would suggest ease of access is thier strong point? Given free access our shopping centre could bloom continueing into the evening as the catering business takes over using the square as a resource as it is starting too.
Very French. It has not got anything to do with class I think but everything to do with priorty of cases. And yes Tesco will happily land bank, it is where the clever money is going.
Alan Hitchcock
Tesco- 8/10/10

Talking with a group of friends last night , why don't Budgens just sell out to Waitrose, we would then have a good local store in the town centre, who care about their staff, provide a good service to their customers and support fundraising in the local community. This would encourage people who live in the villages to come into the town centre supporting all the other shops etc
People who feel that Waitrose would be too expensive have the opportunity to catch the community bus and shop at Costcutters who have excellent offers and friendly staff.
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Tesco- 8/10/10

I am undecided on the merits of a new Tesco's in Faringdon. I agree with certain points of view from both sides of the argument.Budgens is certainly not viable as it is for us to do our weekly shop, so we go to Sainsburys at Stratton or Tesco's in Swindon. As a former resident of Bicester, you may or may not be aware that the Tesco's supermarket and six Tesco expresses there have had an effect on the local shops.Even with the medium size Tesco's in Bicester my wife and I regularly found that we could not get all the items of our weekly shop there, so we would end up driving 12-17 miles to the larger Sainsburys in Kidlington or Tesco's in Banbury. Out of frustration of having to spread our food shop between two supermarkets, we forego our local Tesco's and ended up going out of Bicester to do our weekly shop all the time.

If Faringdon does end up with a Tesco's, then I hope its a decent size one as otherwise we will still end up going out of town to shop.
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The Ultimate Destination Shops !- 8/10/10

Alan H's list of shops and "destination" shops was rather tedious and took up far too much space on my screen but it did reveal a so far hidden sense of humour.
I presume he included the 2 Undertakers in his "destination" shops category.
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ED(GW) Format changed
Not Dog Poop- 8/10/10

mmmm I must the only person in Faringdon that has a non "dog" poop problem - Not sure if it a large cat or five or a family of non urban fox's that heard about my food bin not being emptied this week and came in from the countryside for a "jolly" - All I know is that is certainly wasn't a dog and it wasn't very nice at all .....deposited at regular intervals all the way down my path to the front door! I will have to send a sample to my brother! Don't get me wrong - I love my little brother ......but he has a lurcher that takes great delight on every country walk in finding fox pooh and rolling in it - so at least from his daily experience & extensive bitter knowledge of the problem, he could offer me a PHD level opinion on the pooh's origin!!

Regardless I wish I had not put down the handle to lock the unemptied food bin to protect it against vermin, because then at least it would have been emptied & I would have been doing my bit for wild life conservation!
Teresa Reynolds
Change the Market Place- 8/10/10

I have an idea on how things could be made easier for our buses - take out all the kerbs, bollards, signs etc from our Market Place and make a nice level open space like it used to be. All we need is a wide raised pavement round the edge, as it used to be, with traffic lanes picked out in textured surfaces.
There would then be level ground for market stalls and stages at festival time, and the Mummers would have a decent space to perform on on Boxing Day.
Perish the thought but we could also increase car parking at the same time (except on Market Days of course)
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Budgens is improved- 8/10/10

I really wonder whether those who criticize Budgens so vociferously actually shop in there. The quality of the fruit and veg has improved enormously and I find the prices sufficiently competitive to be worth shopping in town rather than driving out. My experience of other supermarkets has been of bigger shelves with more of the same stuff at the same (or higher) prices.
But I am not brainwashed with the slogans like "good food costs less at..." and so on not having a telly. And it's strange how if you talk politely to the staff how they respond in the same manner to you and are really helpful. Try it.

So now we wheel in the class warriors and say it's the middle class in their 4x4's defending Budgens while others can't afford to shop there. Personally I travel to Budgens on shank's pony and take advantage of their excellent special offers. So why not support Budgen's efforts to improve and stop dividing our Town with the prospect of a second retail area with the "subsidy" of free parking?
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More high street names?- 7/10/10

As a long standing resident of Faringdon, I remember when we used to hope for high street chains to come here.
Faringdon is growing in population numbers, with a Tesco here maybe others will take an interest
Are you listening M&S?
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Tesco- 7/10/10

It seems to me that if Budgens had gotten their act together in the first place there would be no call for a second supermarket,ie, if their shelves were better stocked, the so called fresh produce was actually FRESH, instead of lank, limp and stale, and the store was actually clean and at a price everyone can afford instead of the elderly spending most of their pension on just their weekly shop etc.... and how dare the owner speak on our the townsfolks behalf stating that we neither want or require tesco in our town.
I am appalled that he should presume the right to speak on our behalf and I for one will be attending the next meeting to ensure my voice is heard
Karen Draper
Tesco- 7/10/10

I think personally the main issue is the location of the proposed tesco in my possibly minority (kindly pointed out by sophie) opinion, and I would like to point out also 'A Messenger' that I object to the location of the tesco not the fact that we should have a tesco at all and I am working class... i shop via the internet for my main shop it's cheaper than travelling to tescos in swindon or budgens but i do use all the other shops in town (which works out cheaper than going to swindon)i woulnd't want m&S, Waitrose, Tescos, Sainsburys, lidl or morrisons 200 yards from my house thank you..... as personally i don't think it would be viable to have it so far from the town centre - perhaps a competitor supermarket should consider a town centre location. and if you want to argue on price.... try buying the exact same item in Tesco Express Grove that you do in Tesco in swindon.... check out the massive price difference there. the small store will not provdide the same value for money that a superstore in swindon will provide.
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"tesco has such a bad reputation, with everything" - 7/10/10

Yes I said that. And I stick by it 100%. Look through ANY paper online and you will not spend long before you find a report on how it has killed a town, how they have used child labour in the past, massive libel cases against people who print bad things, battery chickens, MILK PRICES! aiding and abetting the general death of the uk farmer.
Need I say more? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/2807611/Tesco-faces-Slough-of-despond.html

Tom
Tesco leaflet- 7/10/10

There seems to be a perception that Faringdon has few shops and is not a place where people should want to do their shopping.T
his was the message that the "leaflet" sent round to all the local villages and is so wrong.
We have a mass of "destination" shops as well as shops designed to primarily service the the Town. Such as:
3 Furniture shops
1 Motorparts
1 Bespoke kitchens
1 Builders merchant
1 Schoolwear
2 Undertakers
1 Glass and mirror
1 Curtains & fabrics
2 Grocery
1 Sweets
2 Charity
2 Jewellers
1 Bargain centre
1 Optician
1 Fair Trade/Christian shop
1 Newsagent
2 Gifts
1 Cheese
2 Chemists
1 Butcher
1 Flowers
1 Video
1 Bridal
1 Dry cleaner
1 Sandwich
1 Baker
1 Cookery ware
1 DIY
1 Beauty
1 Piano/music
7 Pubs
2 Cafes
4 Restaurants
3 Hotels
1 Garage
3 Motor repair
5 Takeaways
1 TIC
1 Antiques
2 Car showrooms
1 Barber
4 Ladies hairdressers
2 Banks
1 Post office
3 Estate agents
1 Farm shop (Wicklesham)
1 Bookshop

(Please forgive me if I've missed anybody).
That makes 80 shops. There are two significant types missing - clothes and shoes, but there are rumours that at least one of these will be rectified soon.
Please stop running down the retail offer in Faringdon - we have a wide range of non-food shops and we should be telling our friends in the villages and around that Faringdon is a good shopping destination.
Alan Hickmore
VWHDC Preferred option7/10/10

In response to Gene's question - I think the whole planning system is in chaos and I think any Planning Authority (VWHDC or otherwise) has a very hard job to make any real headway at present.
I suspect your observations are an effect of the current chaos and understanding of what developments can be delivered and what can't.
Sarah Allen-Stevens
Tesco- 7/10/10

Could we have the very real situation that Tesco is land banking and therefore blocking any other supermarket chain from entering Faringdon?
If Tesco get planning, who's to say they will actually build a store (plenty of historical evidence from earlier postings...)? And if they don't build a store but Budgens has closed because of the Tesco threat, will Costcutters be large enough to serve the town's needs?
Sarah
Bus shelter- 7/10/10

Who is responsible for removing the vamdalised bus shelter on Park Road?
It's been there for weeks
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Tesco- 7/10/10

Can't wait for a Tesco! It would be good to have the freedom of choice to shop within the town. Why don't we let the middle-class people (who currently shop in Bugdens) continue to shop there, and let everyone else use the new Tesco; where food will be cheaper and fresher and the staff have had proper customer service training; and provide healthy competition for the monopoly that Budgens has.

I have puzzled on how something that is dead already, can die? Tesco is not even here yet, and many shops in the town centre are closed...Too many of our middle-class representatives must see something very different when they amble through the market place!
I have NO OBJECTION to the new Tesco proposal, bring it on!!
A Messenger
Tesco- 7/10/10

It seems to me that some of the minority of anti-Tescos campaigners are so desparate to keep Tescos out of Faringdon that they're sinking to a very low level to try and justify their cause. There was the leaflet, giving the impression it was issued by the VOWH Council, which now nobody will own up to publishing. More recently we have Tom making an untrue suggestion that "tesco has such a bad reputation, with everything". And Andrew has made the highly dramatic statement "death warrant for Faringdon's historic market town centre".

It is absolutely clear from all the statistics and from speaking to many people that a very large majority of Faringdon residents want Tescos in Faringdon as soon as possible. Perhaps more importantly I have not met anyone who will stop going to the good market place shops when Tescos arrives. We also now have a 'gossip' announcement that the VOWH planning committee are going to vote against the application. I wonder who leaked that to our editor?

I am really pleased that Tescos are keeping an eye on Talking Points. I hope they will be encouraged to pursue their application with vigour, helped by seeing that the postings in favour of having a Tescos here significantly exceed those against. I hope Tescos will ensure that all the postings on this site are shown to the planning committee members who can then see the real picture and make their judgment of whether or not some of the Anti-Tescos campaigners are scare mongering.
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Tesco- 7/10/10

I'm a little surprised about what everyone thinks Tesco are offering. A reminder that they are intending to build a 15,000 sq. ft. shop. It is half the size of Sainsbury's at Wantage and one fifth of the size of Tesco in Abingdon. This is about the same size as Budgens and is typically smaller than a shop people would use for a weekly shop - hence the reason why people leave Faringdon to do their weekly shop elsewhere.
I argue that if Tesco set up on Park Road, people that shop there will either be Tesco shoppers topping up on their weekly shop or other people using it as a convenience store for milk or bread, and these people probably wouldn't be stopping for a shop in town anyway.
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Tesco- 7/10/10

Tesco/parking There seems to be an assumption that Tesco will be signifacantly cheaper than Budgons. Is this in fact true? Smaller Tesco shops tend to have higher prices from what I have seen. I am quite certain that Tesco price to cost and local demand within a corporate range of pricing. They will be like Carter's probobly who were adept at pricing such that it was just not worth travelling outside Faringdon to get your shop. Clearly a sensible marketing stratagy. I might be wrong, but the more restricted Tesco's retail range is by planning then the more money they require from the lines they are allowed to sell. In some ways the Town would be better served with as big, and hopefully as cheaper Tesco as we can get or no Tesco at all.

Back to Car Parking. If Tesco has free parking why is anyone, including the mass invasion of out of towners expected, going to drive into the centre of Town to pay parking to use the shops there? Have car will drive as near to destination as possible remember, people are lazy. Only the few will walk. It is not going to happen is it? The threat is not the Tesco shop. That is a straight forward business competiton situation. The threat is that Tesco has free car parking and the Town Centre and therefore the adjacent businesses do not. You heard the Council intends to do nothing about this. That is an abdication of responsibility. The business competion is a matter of debate but I see the Tesco application as a legitimate development on that basis. The situation therefore should revolve round the car parking facilities which are not offering the businesses a level playing field. If we get Tesco we should get free parking availability for the Town Centre in some form or the Town Centre will suffer badly. Having made provission for fair competition you can then argue about the merits of the business competition. Doing so the other way round is stupid and plays into outsiders hands who want to either save revenue in the Vale unto themselves by inaction or make money out of it to take elsewhere. Niether do Faringdon any good. A united front on this issue will see Faringdon actually get something useful out of the situation, perhaps which ever way the planning goes. Peacemeal arguement and disinformation will not get us anywhere. Bare in mind Tesco own the land in question. If not a Tesco what other business are they associated with that could be opened. Or might they just trade the land against a supermarket development plot elsewhere with, say, Morrisons? Happens all the time. Therefore this issue is not going to go away after a couple of rounds of planning. That is the reality and it represents a chance for Faringdon for once to stand up and take advantage of plum situation to gain instead of forever being the victim of circumstance and restricted personal interest.
Alan Hitchcock
Wanted for Giant Jumble Sale - 7/10/10

Books, DVDs, bric a brac, toys, good clothes, shoes, bags, etc.
Raffle prizes.
In aid of Parkinsons Disease, Multiple Sclerosis and 10% to Hope Dog Rescue.
All needed for the Giant Jumble Sale, Saturday 13th November.
Tel: 01367 241753 or 240130
Council Budgets - 7/10/10

I gather VWHDC and South Oxfordshire elected councillors have voted not to become one council. I don't know the reasons, but I suspect the main one is party political.
'Turkeys don't vote for Christmas'

The money saving I suspect would be substantial - but hey - who cares about that when you're at risk of losing your power base
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Tesco- 7/10/10

I can remember Faringdon in the early sixties,used to come here some FRi/Sat nights.The Corn exchange was a great venue for live music,had no problem with a stupid noise limiter.The town had the main A420 running through it,a cinema and lots more pubs.(It always seemed a bit run down.)It was a busy little town.

Looking at the Jazzy "Faringdon Preserve our town" brochure on the front page is a deserted London street with four people, turn the page and there is our wonderful clean sparkling town centre resembling toy town. No People.Not good for promoting the town.The really useful shop,which has had more closing down times this year then the hot dinners quote has reopened.T

he market square, a disaster, buses that now run more often create so much hassle every time they leave .Car parking has been a problem for years.T

he Pump house which was refurbished at great cost,seems to spend a lot of time standing empty.(I wonder if the Corn Exchange will suffer the same fate after having another substantial ammount of money spent on it).
It would seem the Town centre has been in decline for years.
Well meaning attempts have assisted in bringing about the situation as it is.Tesco's as it seems is wanted by a great deal of people and will offer what people want.
All they need is the choice.
Sam Prince
VWHDC Preferred option7/10/10

Does anyone know why the Gloucester Street site is VWHDCs preferred option?
It is nearer the town centre, but is there any other reason.?

What about the increased traffic along Gravel walk and Gloucester Street?

It seems that the Tesco site is not in VWHDCs Core strategy- but I thought the Core strategy was on hold, as David Cameron requires more local involvement.
Can someone from VWHDC please tell us or even one of our councillors?
Gene Webb
In response to Tesco- 7/10/10

Your arguments are entirely spurious and to state that you agree "Faringdon should be preserved" would be laughable if it wasn’t the town that I enjoy living in at risk.

While I don’t doubt that Tesco will take some of Sainsbury’s business as the proposed site is slightly closer to a number of shoppers, this will have a minor impact (i.e. just offering more of the same, a handful of miles closer to customers who will still drive to a supermarket), the major impact of building an out of town supermarket will be to close down the historic town centre of Faringdon. This goes against government policy PPS4 as it is an out-of-centre development and would have a significant adverse impact on Faringdon town centre.
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/planningpolicystatement4.pdf

To use the argument that improving a path or providing a shuttle bus would encourage Tesco shoppers to travel to the town centre is entirely spurious and farcical. You cannot honestly believe that anyone with frozen food defrosting in the boot of their car, recently purchased packaged meat getting warm or having just spent a stressful hour traipsing round the aisles are then going to pop into the town centre?!? Just as likely, those that may have otherwise shopped in town will be encouraged to leave it.

I repeat the point that I welcome any increase in choice, competition and variety in the town centre. However, building an out of town centre development is wrong, Faringdon is too small, and will continue to be when the new housing is completed, to support two centres.
Building an out of town supermarket is irreversible.
Andrew
Car Parking - 7/10/10

One way to increase the car parking in Faringdon is to build a 2 storey car park behind Budgens.
It could be accessible to Budgens from both levels.
I guess neither VWHDC or Budgens will spend the money
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Beware! Wicked Tesco ? - 7/10/10

Faringdon Town is in danger and life, as we know it, will stop.
And what is this threat that we're faced with ? It's simply a rather large shop.
It seems that a food store called TESCO is wanting to build in Park Road
where lorries won't block our town centre whenever they come to unload.
They'll also provide parking spaces. Much better I think you'll agree
for unlike the ones that we are stuck with they won't charge at all. They'll be free.
And will this affect the small traders,? Many just haven't survived.
Nothing to do with TESCOs for TESCO has not yet arrived.

HGM
ED(GW) Thankyou HGM - I was sure you would write a poem
Faringdon Library - 7/10/10

I just want to say what a marvellous service this is. The exceptionally helpful staff will assist you to find any item (book, cd, dvd, that you require). The computer service allows you to access the internet; print items you want, and all for a very affordable amount.

I fear that the downsizing of public services may include the library; if we lose it, it will never be replaced. This will, over the long term, impoverish our culture and society far more than any tinkering with the benefits allocation. I really do think that the library service must be protected from any cuts which may be in the offing. It is invaluable as an educational and recreational resource, and is available and affordable to all.

Hilary Taylor
Tesco -lord be praised - 7/10/10

It's all very well for the wealthy few of Faringdon to push their trolley around Budgen's, parting with vast amounts of extra cash (because you're worth it and you drive a 4x4), but for the 'standard waged' folk who still try desperately to live in this town and not be forced out to the realms of Swindon etc. Tescos' will be a most welcome sight!

I'm quite sure that the rich folk of this town would be only too happy to see an M&S Food, or perhaps a nice pricey Waitrose to show up on their doorstep, but most of us Muggles are forced to drive many miles to Wantage/Abingdon or Swindon to make ends meet.

For those of you modern enough to use the dreaded Facebook' site (the horror!), you may like to join the following group and give the one-sided petitions floating around the town a run for their money!
High time we had a bit of 'freedom of speech' around here!
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/pages/Id-be-happy-for-Tescos-to-come-to-Faringdon/151529074882400
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Re Car Parking- 3/10 - 7/10/10

Why should retailers in Faringdon increase their prices to pay VOWHDC for free parking? Everyone knows you can park in Faringdon for free anytime, so long as it is on double yellow lines not in a VOWHDC car park.
An even better idea, charge for overnight parking in Faringdon VOWHDC car parks, enforce on street parking regulations at all times and make Faringdon VOWHDC car parks free for the first two hours between 8am and 6pm. Problems solved!!!!!!!
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Tesco post - 7/10/10

Sophie ,
I do feel for you and you don't have the publishers details after all, who wouldn't want to sue someone for libel http://tiny.cc/t04sr .
I cannot help but feel that although 75% of people AGREE with your wish to build a tescos in Faringdon the 25% of people who do not wish it, are being more vocal, and this is quite possibly a good thing, the more people know the better things are. Rolling over and taking megacor's word as "god" is not always the best idea.
If you lived in a small local historic town would you wish for a large scale building that supplied .... DIY things, lets say a base for a home. you don't need it as you happen to work out of town and if you need that item you get it on the way home. Or even better use the local store, and while there learn your way was not so wise but their method was not only cheaper but quicker and looked nicer.
It is known that tescos has a track record of asking for one thing and building another.
Saying that x items will not be on sale when in-fact they will be. Now this I frustratingly cannot provide links to, But I have read it in several publications.

You do not say and I don't for a second expect the "Independent research" to know either or the VOWHDC for the matter but its not a needed stat know doubt. BUT where do these shoppers shop? a rival ? smaller shops? or perhaps your own stores, after all it is only Wantage you have no stores at all and Witney has 2 locals but no major stores IIR. But also that 90%+ that shop out of town I am willing to bet work out of town as well, I shop on the way home, I think everyone I know does the same thing it's just convenient.

Competition.
Baker
Butcher/s
Cheese shop
Delicatessen
Paper shop/s (which also supply sweets, card and "key items" depending which you look at)
Card shop/s

That is a fair few shops from the centre of town. Hell even the "cheep shop" is at risk. but remove 6 shops and you are left with a very nice card and "bits" shop, a struggling supermarket, and several takeaways. . . oh and a couple of pubs. 75% agreed, How many pray, are from faringdon, not saying anything questionable is going on but I am sure you can see where I am coming from.
Now my reply has varying sarcasm and i should point out that I am against it. The whole idea. tesco has such a bad reputation, with EVERYTHING you wonder why people are against it.
IT would truly not surprise me if you had building issues, protests etc, I think you may have miss guessed exactly how the residents of Faringdon work.
just another link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10273660
Tom
Hope & Aid Direct humanitarian aid trip to Kosovo - 7/10/10

THANK YOU! The truck of aid leaves Faringdon on Friday 8 Oct and the airbourne crew leave for Kosovo on Monday.
We would like to thank everyone who has supported us in any way over the past few months. Thank you to all who have donated aid, donated money, donated raffle prizes, thank to the Rotary Club for organising the Shop & Drop, thank you to everyone who has come to quiz nights, curry nights, discos, Judith who has made us cakes to take with us to keep us going, people who filled handbags to give to the ladies in Kosovo etc. etc.
If we weren't supported so wonderfully in Faringdon, we wouldn't be able to go and we wouldn't have anything to take.
If anyone is interested in joining a convoy next year, please do get in touch.
Sarah 01367 242769
Tesco Planning application- gossip - 7/10/10

I've been told that VWHDC are going to refuse to give planning permission to the Tesco application.
This is from a credible source. However the Planning meeting isn't until 27/10, so nothing is certain until then.

I've had a look through the public comments on the application on
http://idocs.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/WAM/showCaseFile.do?action=show&appName=planning&appNumber=10/00867/FUL
Mostly objections so far.
I guess people who don't object don't feel the need to comment

Tell them your views(as well as here)
Application reference 10/00867/FUL
http://planning.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/dcapplication/application_detailview.aspx?KEYVAL=L2CX65BYC0000&module=P3&hidereturn=true
or by emailing:planning.dc@whitehorsedc.gov.uk.
Gene Webb
National Poetry Day- 7th October - 6/10/10

Anyone fancy writing something (short) - perhaps relevant to Faringdon and the current issues!
Will be published here - with name or no name - as you wish

www.nationalpoetryday.co.uk/
Ed
Message from Tesco- 6/10/10

We were disappointed to see the anonymous leaflet that has been widely circulated opposing our plans for a new foodstore on Park Road. I am not going to try to counter all the misleading, inaccurate and partial information it contains. However, I do think it is unfortunate that it is not attributed, so we do not know who is behind these claims.
We are only too happy to engage in open debate and have met members of the Chamber of Commerce on three occasions to try to address their concerns. We do not believe the members of the Chamber of Commerce, including Budgens, have anything to fear from a new Tesco foodstore.
Independent research, which the Vale of White Horse District Council’s own findings back up, shows that currently 90 per cent of Faringdon people do their main food shop outside the town, in places such as Abingdon, Swindon, Wantage and Witney. Fewer than 10 per cent do their main food shopping at Budgens. In total more than £17 million a year of grocery spending is being spent by Faringdon residents in stores outside of Faringdon, compared to just over £5 million in the town.

Our store will provide an incentive for these people to stay in Faringdon to shop and, with improved linkage to the town centre, thereby encourage them also to use the existing shops, with most of which we will not be competing at all.

Yes, we agree with the anonymous authors of the leaflet that Faringdon should be preserved. We believe we can help in this aim by stopping the current huge leakage to surrounding towns. The Town Council agrees that, subject to certain provisos, a new foodstore on Park Road would be good for the town.

Nearly 75 per cent of people who attended our public exhibition supported our proposals. Therefore, if you disagree with the leaflet and support the introduction of a new foodstore, please write to the Vale of White Horse District Council and your local councillors to let them know that this leaflet does not represent your views.
Sophie Akokhia, Corporate Affairs Manager, Tesco.

Dog mess in the Church Yard - 6/10/10

As a member of staff at Faringdon Infant School we thought it would be nice to take some of the children for a walk around Faringdon to see some of the buildings and do a quiz about them.
How unfortunate that when we walked around the churchyard two children came out with dog excrement plastered over their shoes and trousers.

A church yard is not a place for dog walking. There are plenty of walking areas in and around Faringdon, some of these even providing dog poop bags.
If you have a dog, why can't you be a responsible dog owner and clear up after it.
The excitement of having a walk around Faringdon turned out to be a distressing time for both pupils affected.
PLEASE CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR DOG - THINK OF OTHERS.
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Dry Cleaners - 6/10/10

I've heard that the shop in London Street that use to be the Dry Cleaners has been let.
Anyone know what sort of shop it will be?
Gene Webb
National Personal Safety Day - 6/10/10

Monday 11th October 2010 has been designated as National Personal Safety Day, and to mark this personal attack alarms will be available at Vale of White Horse Police Stations. The personal attack alarms will cost £2 each, and are ready to use straight away. Abingdon, Wantage and Faringdon Police Stations will have a limited supply and you are welcome to purchase them from the Station Duty Officer at the front counter. The VOWH area is a very safe area to live and work and attacks against the person are rare. This initiative, by the community safety partnership, is designed to reduce crime and enhance community safety. Also available will be anti theft purse bells and U/V marker pens which are free.
Thank you. Message ends.

This is a Community Message from Thames Valley Police
Budgen's Witch Hunt - 6/10/10

Poor Budgens. What a lot of stick they are having at the moment. Too bad for them they inherited buildings which were never designed to last forever (or even forty years) Too bad for them also that delivery vehicles have got bigger, traffic has become denser, you have to pay to park your car, and more people go out to work all day so there are less mums to walk into town and shop locally. We are all so used to the newer, brighter, smarter, better, richer and mightier supermarket chains that we make comparisons and understandably find our local shop wanting.

Those who have been here a long time will remember when the Carter brothers ran the supermarket and were always around supervising and making sure everything was up to scratch. They had the advantage of being very smart retailers and not having much competition. Well, locally anyway they wiped it out, because they were better etc than anyone else. They were also uninterested in the welfare of their competitors and in their way were pretty ruthless and opportunistic. Anyone who recalls the planning decision to allow Carters' rear entrance on to the (then) free council car park will concur. The Carters' thorough attention to detail though is just not there these days - if it was, that amateurish leaflet would certainly have not gone out with plagiarised council logos on it.

All this criticism though has a knock-on effect and is depressing for staff and customers alike, so why can't we lighten up a bit. Change will come, whether we like it or not. In a while we shall all adapt and find someone/something else to burn at the stake. How history repeats itself. Human nature, eh, don'cha just love it??

name supplied
NOT Supporting Tesco - 6/10/10

If Tesco build an out of town supermarket the death warrant for Faringdon's historic market town centre would be signed.

Faringdon’s future will be a dormitory town of new build estates with a run down town centre and the only focal point being a Tesco, with free parking.

Faringdon is unique in the Vale and for its size offers a good range of shops, particularly food shops. Cheese, delicatessen, butchers, bakers, coffee, groceries, sweets, cafés, pubs, restaurants, farmers market, crafts as well as flowers, gifts, jewellery, DVDs, hardware, toiletries, furniture and services such as opticians, banking, insurance, estate agents etc etc.

I welcome any increase in choice, competition and variety in the town centre especially that which draws residents of the new housing into Faringdon town centre. Building an out-of-centre development that kills off the richness, variety, choice and competition in a market town in the Vale is illogical, irreversible and wrong.

I strongly disagree with this application.
Andrew
Supporting Tesco - 6/10/10

I have now taken to walking around the town with a Tesco bag to get used to carrying one! When does it open?
Colin
Creating a Healthy Oxfordshire - 6/10/10

Come and have your say about future health services in Oxfordshire’
Friday 29 October 2010 10.00am – 3.30pm At The Oxford Centre 333 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 7PL

NHS organisations and Oxfordshire County Council are working together to ensure we can provide high quality sustainable health and social care services in the future. Society is changing so health and social care systems need to change to respond to increasing demand, patient expectations and advances in technology and medicines.
More information
Oxfordshire PCT
Faringdon campaign leaflet not linked to Council - 6/10/10

The Vale of White Horse District Council has confirmed that it has had no involvement in a leaflet currently being circulated in Faringdon as part of a campaign against a proposed food store on Park Road.

The leaflet “Faringdon, preserve our town”, which comes from an unknown source, quotes several traders and the local Chamber of Commerce, and also includes the Vale Council’s official logo. The Council wishes to point out that it was not involved in the production or distribution of the leaflet, or in the campaign against the proposed store, and remains impartial on the issue.

The Vale also did not grant permission for any external organisation to use its logo as part of this campaign.

Adrian Duffield, Head of Planning at the Vale of White Horse District Council, said: “The use of our logo on this leaflet is particularly misleading and unfortunate as we are yet to determine the planning application for this proposed development and so may be seen as compromising the council’s impartiality.”
Tesco - 5/10/10

TESCO’S I think the anti Tesco campaigners that have used unauthorised literature and logos have now shot themselves in the foot and a selfish foot at that, their views and disagreements are not about the town and local businesses but solely about their own loses and gains. If Tesco build and I truly hope they DO! It will finally get rid of the biggest eyesore in the town.

Budgens take over the whole of the road on delivery days at the front of the shop and the drivers think they own the path and have no respect for people passing, their prices are a million miles away from competitors and the selection of items are a disgrace.

The Yaqub family at Costcutters always ensure they are open, have all the essentials and keep their shelves stocked and at reasonable prices for a very small shop and i feel that they will keep their regular customer base even if Tesco's opens. Budgens finds it hard to maintain prices, availablity and selection and this is for a so called big chain. It’s now time us locals back the Tesco bid to give us good value for money, excellent range and a varied selection of products, because let’s face it! If you can afford to shop in Budgens all the time you have obviously not been hit by the recession and have more money than sense, because in today’s economy we all need the food deals, buy one get one free and the club card points, don’t see Budgens offering loyalty points.

For all of those so called do gooders that think it will kill Faringdon you all need to wake up this will bring hundreds of people to Faringdon that currently travel to Swindon, Witney & Wantage, it is so long overdue and a stepping stone to become a better Faringdon and to bring us up to date.
Name Supplied
New Waste Collection - 6/10/10

- broken down lorry Seems like there was a plague of broken down rubbish lorries on Monday... there was a lorry broken down on Coleshill Drive for about 3 hours on Monday, too. The mechanic was not particularly impressed with the lorries at all... he didn't have a good thing to say about them (other than he was getting to work on clean ones that day!!).

Whilst the waste at the top of Coleshill Drive sat there waiting to be collected, there was another bin lorry parked on the Gt Coxwell roundabout for a significant amount of time.

In fact, the ONLY moving rubbish lorry I saw all day was the one doing 40mph+ in a 30mph zone, roaring past small kids shortly after school let-out time, on the A417 in East Challow.

Enough said.
Name Supplied
Budgens plans - 5/10/10

i was told by a old budgens employee that the new owner of budgens is waiting to see if tescos get the go a head for the building work on park road If they dont then he will go ahead with his plans which are located at the rear of the store for all to see i hope he goes ahead with it becouse it does look very smart
Name Supplied
Regarding car parking costs - 5/10/10

I suspect that the Vale DC have a department that maintains all the car parks e.g. line painting, kerb replacement, ticket machine maintenance, strategic salting in winter, etc.. - all that sort of necessary stuff. This is maybe why some of their fixed costs can't be attributed easily to each individual car park.

Irrespective, if the car parking is to be free, even for a short while, these costs still have to be paid and if we could come up with some creative ideas as to how to help the Vale cover these costs then maybe the Vale will help us get some free parking.
Sarah Allen-Stevens
Pothole - 5/10/10

There has been a pothole/loose kerb outside Deacons for over 2 weeks now. It is dangerously covered with a piece of board. Last Tuesday a workman was looking at it and measuring it!! It was still there this morning...... how many have tripped over it and now putting a claim in for compensation??
Chris Higgs
Contribute to a vision for the Vale - 5/10/10

It's evident that lots of people have strong views about Faringdon - how about telling the Vale about them through the consultation - repeated below

New website surveys to build a vision for the Vale - 15/9/10
Conservatives at the Vale of White Horse District Council have launched a new website (www.valevision.com) to involve local people in building a new vision for the Vale.
The website, which has been live for just over a month and is attracting growing support, offers local people a chance to offer ideas on how the council should be run, and comment on proposals from the Vale of White Horse Conservatives.

Leader of the Conservative Group, Cllr Matthew Barber said, “We believe this is s truly unique project. We’re putting forward our plans for public scrutiny, well before the election in order to let people comment on them and suggest their own ideas.” The website lists local Conservative proposals which the public can respond to and also seeks new ideas.
Surveys are conducted on important issue, and some are tailored to specific interest groups, such as parish councillors and there will shortly be a survey for local retailers.
You can visit the website at www.valevision.com and sign up for email updates.

ED(GW) There are a number of surveys:
Planning policy
Car parking
Housing policy
More power at a local level
New waste collection service
Survey for parish councils
Spending Challenge Survey Council service priorities

anti Tesco campaign - 5/10/10

Are the people running the anti Tesco campaign been duly elected to speak on my behalf? or is it I suspect for their own selfish reasons.
I have have always worked outside of Faringdon I used to shop there, final nails in the coffin lack of choice and the parking.You only have to see Budgens staff shopping at Asda,Tesco and Sainbury's to realise that even with discount they still can't afford or don't want to shop in the place that pays their wages.
So as for Tesco's the sooner the better and lets get rid of all those eyesores along park road
Name Supplied
The Tesco leaflet - 5/10/10

Today I read an email from the VWHDC economic development officer which disclaims any responsibility or knowledge of the leaflet. She asks that it be withdrawn and all websites that show it cease to do so forthwith.
So who did issue it? Nick Elwell disclaims any responsibility for the chamber of commerce or any of the organisations in which he is involved (so who's face is it in the middle of the leaflet?)
The mystery thickens!!
Alan Hickmore
Tesco - 5/10/10

I have been down to the farmer's market this morning and the town was full of people not only buying at the Market but in the town as well.
The new bargain centre has lots of really good quality products at prices people can afford.
The queue in Boots was 5 people in front of me.
I visited Rob the Cheese, the Mustard seed, the Nut tree and queued in the Bank and the post Office.
Went into Deacons and both the Charity shops.
I spent £50 in Faringdon.

However I rarely shop in Budgens as it is overpriced and I feel sorry for the staff being paid minimum wage and staff that are on holiday are not replaced by others who would love a day's work to help pay the bills.
I internet shop once a month for items that I can not get in Faringdon, I am not loyal to any of the big Supermarkets swapping between Sainsbury's Asda and Tesco,s
For my top up Item's I use Cost cutter's. Omar and his team are always helpful and the offers are so much better than Budgen's.It's nice to have a chat and be valued as a customer.
I have lived here for 25 years and went To Carters 3 times a week Every morning until they sold out to Budgen's. Norman Carter was always in the shop checking the stock, and very obliging to assist anyone especially the old ladies that had come just for a pint of Milk and a chat.
The only time I see the Current Owner of Budgen's is when he talks to other Shop keepers ie: in the Jewellers when he was complaining about the state of Faringdon, How unprofessional. I was not the only Customer at that time and we all raised eyebrows! If Budgen's is to survive he should have not changed the format of Carter's and I would have continued to shop there. If Tesco's is to come here the walk into town is a bare 5 minutes .

So Much is happening in Faringdon, don't let Budgen's spoil the Community spirit
The new community bus could always stop at Tesco,s and take people into town as it does such a good job.
I would like to Thank the editors for this excellent site
Name Supplied
Tesco - 5/10/10

Tesco Did anyone see news this morning one town had around 6 tescos. Imagine that on each end of Faringdon. Would clear the town of cars!!! keep some happy
Name Supplied
Tesco - 5/10/10

Lets face it tesco will provide more jobs than all the local shops together by some margin. Of course it will be made up of mostly locals .
I still think the best place for tescos is the land next to esso to provide easy access to all.
Name Supplied
Lost Ginger Kitten - 5/10/10

Our daughters 7 month old ginger kitten got out yesterday and has not come back and she is very sad at the moment. He escaped from Rawdon Way so would have most likely been in the area around the health centre or the cricket pitch but as this obviously backs onto Berners Way and the new estate and he's a kitten he could be anywhere.
If you have him or know where he is please can you give me a call.
Thanks Barbara 07801 208386
Car Parking - 5/10/10

Gene Webb's info The 'VWHDC councillors have voted to apply charges consistently across the Vale and not deal with individual car parks differently' This ignores the fact that the Vale has created and the council enherited an unbalanced free car parking provision town to town across the Vale. I also cannot believe that the profit and loss on car parks is not calculated per cost centre rather than blanket Vale wide. That suggests the car parks are individual in all respects other than a vote and that there are, indeed, special cases amongst them which would be why various works and modifications are specific to an individual car park. Therefore it is unreasonable to state that this is not so.
Indeed to say otherwise is a convinient cop out from doing some constructive policy work to streamline and balance trade Vale wide. It is a wonderful world where one can be voted in to do a job, go on to vote it does not exist and therefore no work has to be done. Clearly plonking a new supermarket in the middle of Faringdon creates a special case even if it was not one already. Who is responsible for Tesco arriving, I think it is the VWHDC isn't it? Spot Bots in inaction, collect your money on the way out, as my Father would say. The statement will not wash and is unsatisfactory. It should be remembered that car parks, like many of our rules and revenue collections, only work if people wish to abide by them.
What happens if the Town loses trade and the locals start to avoid or refuse to pay for the car parks, like I do already. The car park makes a loss (assuming the £250k is a justifiable figure). Clearly a more cohesive and imaginative approach is needed and Tesco offer the upheavel in Faringdon with which to make the attempt to the benifit of everyone. Reacting to these situations is what the job of the councellors is for, just get on with it and stop dodging the responsibility intrusted in you.
Alan Hitchcock
Well Done - 5/10/10

May I just say a big thank you to you all at Faringdon Online. I wrote a comment, and it was on this site within an hour.
Must be the most up to the moment town community web site around.
Andy Boston
ED(GW) Thanks Andy- I try to keep the debate going
New Waste Collection - 5/10/10

New Waste Collections

We have to have bags instead of bins, but the bags don't fit our dustbins, they are around half the size of our old black bin bags. That makes struggling to hold the little bags open with one hand while we try to stuff our cardboard, paper, bottles and plastic cartons etc. into the receptacle with the other quite tricky during (for instance) driving rain and wind. Has anyone come across suitably sized rigid bins in which we can fix the flimsy plastic bags open?

name supplied
Tesco - 4/10/10

The real issue is economic if we are blunt about it. Tesco opening will remove some shops, businesses and jobs in the town. Those jobs and businesses are in the main paying directly into the local economy for which we all benefit.
Tesco will take its profit elsewhere and only the rates and locally employed will pay into the local economy. There is therefore less for the town, economically, in the shop being opened.
If the Tesco was to increase trade for other businesses in town to the point where the town breaks even or imports additional money into the local economy then fine.
That includes any potential uses of land and impact from the planners elsewhere in the town. That is the nub of the matter.
Alan Hitchcock
Tesco not big enough- 4/10/10

My only concern is that the proposed new store will not be big enough. The bigger the store, the more customers coming to Faringdon. The more people coming in, the more chance that some will use our local shops. Open the store and save our little town. A new supermarket could be the reason to visit, then revisit a second time.( if the parking allows. )
Name Supplied
New Waste Collection - broken down lorry- 4/10/10

Oh dear! The brand new, specially adapted Mercedes recyled waste collection lorry broke down in Faringdon on day 1 of the new service.
It spent nearly 3 hours outside Ferndale School where some of the younger children enjoyed a brief impromptu lesson on how a recycling lorry should work.
Apparently, the operatives were very pleasant and friendly in spite of their embarrassment.
Name Supplied
Faringdon died over a decade ago- 4/10/10

Faringdon died over a decade ago when they started building new houses!! it's no longer a historic town either,Its the in town to live as 78% don't even work in faringdon most travel to wiltshire Oxfordshire, Berkshire,Buckinghamshire Northhamptonshire,& 8% to London to work,
i would vote for Tesco's with both hands up!!
i have lived in faringdon all my live 35 years,and so many shops have come & gone,& so many shops are over priced,Oh and if Tesco's do come to town at least London street would be clear of parked cars 24/7
Oh i like shopping at Sainsbury's by the way in wantage..
Name Supplied
Preserve our town leaflet - 4/10/10

Concerning the recent distribution of this leaflet I would like to express that The Whats's On has been used only as the distribution vehicle and does not imply that we support any campaign that is being supported, by this leaflet, we are completely neutral with regards to local issues.
We were unaware that this leaflet was being sent out with out latest What's On.
Jackie Stayt
Tesco - 4/10/10

With regard to the siting of a new supermarket (earlier post)

If the Vale favour a Gloucester street site, why is that? Has any supermarket actually expressed an interest in the site? We really ought to be told what is going on here, and what the reasons are for this alleged partiality.

District Councillors, you are very quiet. Can you explain? A majority of people in the town seem to want the proposed Tesco in Park Road, but are going to be disappointed if the Vale choose not to pass the application.

name supplied
ED(GW) It has been said that some interest is being taken in the site by potential retailers. Having said that I gather that that a Tesco chap said they wouldn't look at it as the costs of levelling the space would be very high. It seems that customers don't like car parks that slope.
It would be good to hear from our councillors. Perhaps they can explain why VWHDC prefer the Gloucester St site.

Tesco - 4/10/10

How right some are.
Faringdon needs waking up. Tesco will make them think twice regarding pricing.
Staff in many shops carry on private conversations whilst with customers.
BRING IT ON
Name Supplied
Tesco - 3/10/10

With regard to the small shops in Faringdon that are worried about losing business to Tescos.

Try opening your shop on a saturday afternoon?-maybe even sunday for the tourists?
Try not to close for lunch?
Employ polite staff?
If you have 6 tills try opening more than one?

Oh and i hope that tescos has a post office because certain staff in the post office are sometimes very rude….

Wake up Faringdon. Change or die....
Name Supplied
Tesco leaflet- 3/10/10

I have read the leaflet and am a little bit confused by it. Apart from the authorship (is it VWHDC or not?), I was surprised by some of the language in it. For example the attack on the Town Council decision.
Perhaps it would help if I repeat the motion that was agreed by FTC planning committee (my explanations in brackets):
Do not object to the application (ie Tesco) but request that the planning application should only be considered in the context of:

a) The Town Council insists that provision is made for B2 & B8 (ie manufacturing and warehousing) land which will be taken away as a result of this planning application.(We want the Wicklesham quarry development to go ahead).
b) A clear plan for the improvement of the quantative and qualitative compparison retail offer in the Town centre (ie. more and a greater variety of non-food shops).
c) The provision of greatly improved pathways and cycle ways from the site to the Town centre.
d) The provision of a shuttle bus to the Town centre.
e) In order to provide a level playing field for the existing supermarket, the removal of parking charges for the first two hours in the car parks at Gloucester Street and Southampton Street.
f)Restrictions on the timing of delivery lorrie movements.
g) Restriction on product range to convenience (ie food and related products) goods only, particularly excluding pharmacy.

That seems pretty comprehensive to me and seems to cover virtually everything that is in the leaflet.

One point that seems to being missed. Tesco will employ about 100 people as a full time equivalent figure. At basic wage (and Tesco are amongst the best payers in food retailing, so this is a low figure) that would bring £2,000,000 extra income (after tax) into Faringdon annually.

We should be working together to help our Town and to make it a destination to which people want to go and shop. We have some really excellent destination shops - they are what we should be talking about, not the shops that have temporarily closed.
Alan Hickmore
(Please note that these are my views and do not reflect those of the P&H committee).
Tesco leaflet- 3/10/10

When I saw the comments about the anti Tesco leaflet I had a closer look at it, and I noticed that it appears to be endorsed by the Vale of White Horse council - as it has the council logo on the bottom left hand corners of it. If the leaflet doesn't have this endorsement, then the logo shouldn't be there - is probably in breach of copyright - and the VWHDC needs to take some action to refute their involvement.
If this leaflet IS supported by the VWHDC then the council is in clear breach of its own duty as there is a planning application from Tesco under consideration. My guess is that the leaflet is nothing to do with the District Council, but has been deliberately designed to look as if it is 'official'.
A few points.
It does not, of course, take ten minutes to walk from the proposed site into the town centre, (unless you are impaired in some way) and as someone else has already said, why bother when you can walk along Park Road/Marlborough Street which is quicker.
If the 'map' was more accurate you would see that the proposed store was nearer the 'actual' town centre, as opposed to the 'old' town centre but most of the residential areas of the town aren't shown.
Illustrations of shops already closed? You can hardly blame Tesco for that.
Loss of business land? If business land is so much in demand, why has the acreage near the bypass remained advertised and unsold for so long?

As for the ten reasons for objecting, I'll just mention a couple:
10. "experience suggests that over a third of the money currently spent..." What/whose experience is that, exactly?
7. "With 135 free on-site parking spaces it will act as a magnet for car borne shoppers who would otherwise have driven into Faringdon town centre"
Thank goodness for that I say, the town centre parking situation couldn't be much worse!

No one can blame the local shopkeepers for trying to preserve their livelihoods, but it was the existing supermarket (Carter's/Budgens) which over time was responsible for closing most of the independent Faringdon retailers in the first place, and is now squealing with indignation because it may suffer the same fate as it's previous small competitors.
name supplied
Object to Tesco- 3/10/10

I object to Tesco's application to build a new store in the town. In a time of economic downturn the local businesses in Faringdon are already struggling to keep their doors open. The opening of a large National supermarket will take the trade away from these businesses and destroy the unique atmosphere and shopping experience found in the centre of this historic market town.

By nature we are lazy and if free car parking is provided within the new store then Tesco shoppers will not walk into the town to shop in the other establishments.

The town is not large enough for two supermarkets. I do an internet shop for my weekly groceries (tins, frozen food etc) and top up with fresh cheese, meat, gifts, greeting cards, bread etc from the local stores and market. I will not change my shopping habits for Tescos.

Wake up Faringdon, do not destroy the unique character of our lovely town.
Name Supplied
The Tesco leaflet- 3/10/10

Please stop running our Town down.
I was very surprised yesterday when a customer at the shop I run in Lechlade brought me in a copy of the leaflet issued BY WHOM? and told me this had been put through every door in Lechlade and Fairford and surrounding villages. What an advert for a town that I recomend people to go to!!!. How to put people off coming to your town centre in one easy lesson, make it look so unattractive that nobody will go there.

Isn't Budgen's trying to do exactly what they are protesting about, I remember when Jan(who had a flower shop) at the sweet shop closed down when Budgen's started selling flowers, and the protests from the small newsagents in London St. when Budgen's started selling newspapers and magazines,perhaps I have a long memory. So now they are going to have a cafe and a dry goods area, toys, electrical cooking items?

Also why have all these plans not been done a long time ago instead of waiting for the town meeting earlier in the year for the owners of Budgen's to accept the need for some investment in their business. I personally have never been a great TESCO fan and never will be, but I do believe that people will make their own minds up where to shop, exactly as we do now.

I also note the loss of employment land, what employment? those building in Park St. have stood empty a long time not employing anybody, and part of our Town Council's submission was that planning permission should be granted at different places in the town.
Please lets pull together and work for everybodys good, businesses, people of the town everybody, not just those with vested interests.
Name Supplied
Supermarket car parking - 3/10/10

Retailers in Faringdon seem to insist the the root of the shopping problem in Faringdon is that our car parks are not free. Why don't they all, especially Budgens, talk with VWHDC and offer to pay the net annual income.
Name Supplied
Re Tesco- 3/10/10

I think if the posters look at the FTC Planning and Highways Committee minutes dated 13th July 2010, they will find that the Town Council are trying to address most of the points.
Particularly car parking, access to the town centre and the disgusting pathways. The minutes can be found on the FTC website.

Jane Boulton
From Tesco- walk into the town - 3/10/10

Shouldn’t the Chamber of Commerce been lobbying for tidying up the path from Park Road to Southampton Street/Goodlake Avenue months ago rather than using it as a reason to prevent a new business moving to the town?
Name Supplied
New Waste Collection service- 3/10/10

Do Faringdoningdons consume of lot of crisps and confectionary or are the new grey bins over generous? I can see mine being put out once a year
Name Supplied
Anti Tesco leaflet- 3/10/10

I love the Budgens/chamber of commerce leaflet – especially the don’t let this turn this into this, where they show pictures of shops already closed!
Aren’t the recent shop closures down to rent increases? Shouldn’t the chamber be attacking the council over this rather than that opposing a development that most of Faringdon want?
We have heard a lot from the chamber of commerce of how a new supermarket will destroy existing jobs in our town, yet they have not commented on the businesses Budgens will destroy by building a café – or do they, like the rest of us, know that Budgens have no intention of investing money in their business.
Name Supplied
Overpriced Budgens - 3/10/10

At last the monopoly of the overpriced, poor quality Budgens is to be broken. Shame it is not a more ethical store that is planned but anything to force Budgens to realise that they can no longer overcharge for poor quality produce has to be a good thing.
Name Supplied
Police vs Youth?- 3/10/10

A round of applause must be given to the pcpso's that were questioning these youths. The Youths that 'hang out' in the market square are rude, mouthy, intimidating without exception. They are not just 'hanging out', they are drinking illegally, vandalising illegally and what ever thay can think of illegally.
This is an issue which the police need to address, and I thank them for it.
Were these the same youths that also congregate up tuckers park of an evening? Are these the same youths that verbally abuse anybody that dares to exit the football club for a cigarette. Are these the youths that caused assault to a number of members of public who were using the football club Friday (1 october), of which two got arrested (the rest fled through gardens etc). Please if you would like to raise an argument like this, have a proper argument to back yourself up.
The youths that were 'hanging out', may well have been just 'hanging out' but lets be honest, with what the locals have to put up with most of youth that 'hang out' down town and budgens car park can you blame the police for being vigilant? I cant and for this as I said previously I totally applaud them.
Name Supplied
Tesco support - 2/10/10

I'd like to know which organisation produced the anti-Tescos brochure recently delivered to Faringdon households with the What's on. Because the White Horse logo appears on every page, at first glance one could be forgiven for thinking it's the VOWH Council which produced it. Odd that it's not clearly attributed to any particular organisation although I personally suspect that the Chamber of Commerce and/or Budgens have got together to fund this brochure. And it looks very much as if they've scraped the barrel to find a list of reasons why we shouldn't have a Tescos. By suggesting that the alley is the way shoppers would walk from Tescos to the town is silly as a previous contributor has also pointed out.

Yes - I believe I'm one of a majority of people who want Tescos to come to Faringdon. My main reason being that Budgens has had a monopoply for far too long and, although it's clearly trying, it still fails to be able to compete on pricing.
May I suggest that those of us who want Tescos here should also write to the list of organisations on the last page of the brochure expressing support.
Name Supplied
Faringdon information- 2/10/10

I was bemused by the item (Faringdon Information) that the VWHDC favoured the Gloucester Street location for a new supermarket.

Park Road is far more geographically central for the majority of residents and the site has room for a decent sized car park. I can imagine that perhaps the Vale would prefer their own (pay) car park to be used instead of a supermarket free one, but what were their actual stated reasons for this preference, which seems bizarre?

name supplied
ED(GW) I asked David Buckle why - and he didn't know
Preserve Our Town ? (From wicked Tesco's) - 2/10/10

After returning from my weekly visit to Sainsbury's I found a glossy and probably expensive leaflet pushed through my letterbox.
It gave logical reasons why Tesco's would destroy life as we know it in Faringdon and I found myself thinking that these people really know what they are talking about..
They then asked me if I would use the grotty path from Park Road via Southampton Street/Goodlake Avenue as a route into the Town Centre which according to Google takes 10 minutes
The answer is, of course, definitely .....NO ! ....And neither would anyone in their right minds
But I would walk along Park Road /Marlborough Street which, again according to Google, takes 9 minutes
So now I'm wondering. Do the writers really know what they are talking about..or are they just, quite justifiably, trying to influence people like myself who really couldn't care less ?
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No objection to Tesco 2/10/10

This town is expensive to shop in so I see the possibility of Tesco coming a great benefit. Needed a part for a kitchen cupboard, £9 in Davis DIY and £4.49 in Wickes!
Shopping in Budgens kills my Budget. No, come on Tesco and can I collect the trolleys in the car park please?
Colin
Object to Tescos online - 1/10/10

if you are interested in objecting to Tescos i strongly suggest that you do so today. the leaflets that arrived in the post last night are almost too late you can oject online however you only have the next few days to do so as the applcition decision date passed on the 28th September. we have to beat the apparent 76% of residents t...hat do want it? (that's of the 268 they asked who went to the public exhibition)

http://planning.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?keyval=L2CX65BYC0000
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Lord Berners books available in Faringdon- 1/10/10

Peter Dickinson's book 'Lord Berners - Composer Writer Painter' in paperback @ £17.99
'Tales and Fantasies' by Lord Berners @ £12.99.
His novels are also available usually on a 'print on demand' basis.
Available from David Gottelier, White Horse Bookshop 10a, Marlborough Street
Tel 01367 242742
New Waste Collection service - 1/10/10

Some residents have still not collected their sacks for the Vale's new waste service launching on Monday.

The council is urging residents in Vale of White Horse identified as unsuitable for wheeled bins to collect their sacks as soon as possible for the new rubbish and recycling service if they have not already done so. From 4 October the council will only collect rubbish or recycling put out in the new pink and green sacks and will not collect any waste put out in black bags from those properties on sacks.

Residents can collect sacks from:
- Vale of White Horse District Council offices, Abbey Close, Abingdon - open 8.45am-5pm Monday to Friday
- Faringdon Tourist Information Centre, the Corn Exchange, Gloucester Street, Faringdon - open 9am-4pm Monday to Thursday, 9am-1.30pm on Friday and 9.30am-1pm on Saturday
- or call Wantage Civic Hall for opening hours on 01235 763456.

Olivia Bucknall Shared Communications Officer Corporate Strategy
Tel: 01491 823022 Email: olivia.bucknall@southoxon.gov.uk
Visit us at www.southoxon.gov.uk or www.whitehorsedc.gov.uk
Find a car park

Great site - http://www.carparks4u.com/- even has postcodes so they're easy to find with your GPS

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Community awards- Vote now - 1/10/10

Please vote for your chosen favourite in each section. You do not have to give your name but we would be grateful if you could sign at the bottom of the form ( download the form). This helps eliminate multi voting and keeps the Awards as fair as possible.
Details on each candidate can be found in Faringdon Community and Tourist Information Centre as well as in local media.
Votes can be placed in Ballot boxes in C&TIC / Town Council offices. Posted to Faringdon Community and Tourist Information Centre, The Corn Exchange, Corn Market, Faringdon, SN7 7JA or emailed to sally@faringdontowncouncil.gov.uk
Deadline for the Voting is 29th October 2010.

Clive Davis Community Hero - Sponsored by Faringdon Town Council and Stagecoach Buses
Joy Blake - For repatriation work, Church Choir and Royal British Legion
Christine Moorhouse - For charity work with Macmillan Cancer Support
David and Margo Manning - For charity work and community services

Group Award - Sponsored by Faringdon Town Council and Faringdon Newspapers
Faringdon First Responders
The Folly Trust
Faringdon Rotary Club


Business Award - Sponsored by Faringdon Chamber of Commerce and Cotswold Life
Caldecourt Carpets
Faringdon Coffee Shop
Simply Schoolwear

Faringdon information - 1/10/10

I went to a meeting that included the Chief Executive (David Buckle) of VWHDC(and South Oxfordshire Council) yesterday.

Some interesting information:
VWHDC get £700k income from car parks, and the costs of running them are about £250K. If car parking was free, the £450k 'profit' would have to be raised through Council Tax.
VWHDC councillors have voted to apply charges consistently across the Vale, and not deal with individual car parks differently.
Currently the police manage onstreet parking. In some areas this has been handed to the County to manage, and they in turn pass the responsibility to the district council. It seems in Oxfordshire the Police and the County are unable to reach agreement.

VWHDC Council Tax is 14th lowest (across all District councils) VWHDC get c £116 per house. If they charged the average amount they would get £2.5m more to spend on services.

VWHDC website is to be redesigned alongside South Oxfordshires's website. Each will be branded differently though there will be some common information. Elected members have voted not to offer just 1 website covering both councils.

It is expected that the amount of recycling will increase to about 65% once the new contract gets underway(4/10)

It is expected that Verdant, the new contractor, will improve the level of street cleanliness in the Vale as they already have in South Oxfordshire.

Both VWHDC and South Oxfordshire have office accommodation for about 450 staff. Across both councils about 450 staff are employed. There is no decision, as yet, how to reduce the cost of this accommodation.

Elected councillors have voted to keep each Council separate in terms of democracy . Presumably this means there is no plan to join the councils together into one council., though some services are contracted and managed jointly.

Tesco planning application will be considered at the end of the month. VWHDC preferred location for a supermarket is on Faringdon Estates land behind the Gloucester St car park.
Gene Webb
Do you have a passion for jogging? - 1/10/10

Do you live in the Vale? Do you have a passion for jogging? Could you help others find that passion? Get Oxfordshire Active is looking for motivated individuals to lead local jogging groups for adults of all fitness levels. No qualifications are required - just bags of enthusiasm, motivation and a like for socialising.

Jogging is a great way to get fit. It's free to do, and easy to fit around your lifestyle.
If you would be interested in either leading a jogging group (training provided) or finding out about a jog group please contact Anna Capel-Davies on 01235 540377 or email anna.capeldavies@whitehorsedc.gov.uk.
Macmillan Cancer Support (Faringdon Group) - 1/10/10

We would like to thank everyone who so kindly supported our Coffee Morning at The Old Town Hall last Saturday. We raised £772.56 for Macmillan thanks to the amazing generosity of the people of Faringdon and the surrounding area.
So far this year we have raised over £10,000. We will publish our final figures at the end of the year.
Thank you.
Chris Moorhouse (Chairman)
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