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Wryly Smiley misses the point - 30/6/11

I certainly believe that young people should be given the opportunity to organise and run events, but allowing them to ‘organise and run events’ isn’t the issue, is it? I also believe that they should be taught consideration for the surrounding residents, rather than be encouraged in the sense of entitlement they seem to have regarding the decibel level they create. Loud doesn’t necessarily equal good, it just equals loud. Any baby can bang a drum loudly. Lowering the volume wouldn’t detract from the skill involved, and it might even better expose the level of musicianship. It sounds like that’s not what your young people are after, though.

As for democracy – I reckon your version would turn out to be the same variety as “nine out of ten cats prefer [well known cat food]” - but I absolutely concur with you, Steve Wright and others re. the Corn Exchange. Of course ‘the question put forward’ on this forum won’t be answered, because it hasn’t actually been put forward at all. Why don’t you send a communication with some properly constructed, detailed and written questions to the appropriate council body. Copy it, date it, and send it recorded delivery to all interested parties, including our MP. That way it has to be answered, and if the answer isn’t satisfactory, pursue it.

Wryly Smiley
This is a Community Message from Thames Valley Police. - 30/6/11

INFORMATION APPEAL
Offender(s) stole £1 coins that were marked with a white dot, following a theft from a property in the Market Place, Faringdon on 14th June, 2011 If you see or handle a £1 coin marked with a white dot, please contact the police on 08458 505 505. Alternatively if you have information but wish to remain anonymous, please call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
Message Ends.
.Wryly Smiley misses the point - 30/6/11

This is a democracy: If the majority in a democracy want something then that “something” has the tacit approval of the majority. Everybody in Faringdon is entitled to an opinion. If the majority of people in Faringdon believe that giving the younger members of our society an opportunity to organise and run a musical event is a good thing, they should be entitled to say so – wherever they live in the Town.
In a town in France, a local law has been passed that prohibits the mowing of lawns on a Sunday. The law was passed with the consensus of all residents: not just three!
Name supplied
Police at the festival- 30/6/11

A little masterstroke by the police! and yes, they can be so noisy, rushing about in their cars with the old blues'n'twos going. Let's just see what they have to say about THAT.
Look forward to it all anyway, and hope the Sun Has Got His Hat On.

Wryly Smiley
Thames Valley Police meeting - 30/6/11

I thought that the announcement of the police meeting was sudden and as yourself didn't realize that it was in the program.
But on that night of the 25th when the police arrived and checked the license for the event they stated "that they had no idea that the event was taking place,seeing as the police are notified at the same time as the application is put in for the licence perhaps they really don't know what's going on? The question put forward about the corn Exchange will probably not be answered.
Sam Prince
Football Club - 30/6/11

Unfortunately, having been in touch with the Under 10s contact there has not been enough interest from boys my sons age for them to have a team this year.
Such a shame
Emira
Re Community Message from Thames Valley Police. - 29/6/11

I'm pleased to note that Neighbourhood Officers are joining Faringdon Festival with an event in the Market Place. I didn't see it in the programme.

Several bands, including Uke Box Jury and The Quiet Men will be performing on stage at the same time as the meeting. There's singing in All Saints'; poetry in the Swan; a 'Theatre Laboratory'; a celebration of King James' Bible; art, photography and graphic design exhibitions; pianos to play and general fun to be had.
Free. Of course some of it may be a bit noisy ...
Sheila
Outdoor music event at the Portwell Angel-29/6/11

That last post has to be one of the most wierdly illogical I've ever read on this forum, and that's saying something!
So if I live a mile away from the venue, "or anywhere in Faringdon", in a nice snug double glazed house, and DIDNT hear anything, I should record the fact on Focus website and that would be taken as support for the event?
Alternatively, I stayed at home, within earshot and was disturbed, but wasn't aware that a relative or guests attended, so...what? Not allowed to complain? how does that work, exactly?
Clearly there was cause for complaint of some sort or another - otherwise why so many complainants? Also, I note that you refer to 'perpetrators'.

I merely write in fascination at a particularly nonsensical attempt at justification. This isnt a comment on the gig, I live too far away, and in a snug, double glazed house, to be bothered. The only sound I can hear is that of scraping barrels.

Wryly Smiley
Football Club - 29/6/11

Emira, I'm sorry you've been given the impression that there is no football for your son. We have a fantastic Football Club at Tuckers Park that caters for all ages, has several teams and wins awards. Your son will be welcomed and very well looked after.

There is also a Scout group in Faringdon and this is the download to join http://www.st-hughs.co.uk/assets/1st_faringdon_register_of_interest.pdf
I hope this helps and welcome to our town.
Jane
FTC councillor
Hate and Ignorance-29/6/11

Ah yes, the replies I've been expecting.
In hindsight, i am prepared to admit that my statement that I "have spent years loathing a majority of people in this town" was perhaps too strong. I was incredibly angry at the time of writing and, as Name Supplied pointed out, forgot my own principles. Of course I do not loath a majority of people, but at the time of writing it certainly felt like the masses of Faringdon were rising up to destroy another possible venue. Something which seems to happen far too often.

As for being self centred, I have never demanded that people stop what they're doing just because I feel it is disturbing my life for a few hours. I am also far from ignorant where unwanted commotion is concerned. Where I live, the sometimes noisy exploits of others becomes a way of life. I learned at an early age to deal with it and these intrusions would often continue for much longer than the average timespan of a gig.

Oh, and the "wastrels who could've been somebody" refers to no-one in particular. I was merely trying to illustrate the juxtaposition of images that make up a town, and that each characteristic must have its opposite.

Now i won't post again as I refuse to be drawn into a long and tedious internet debate. If anyone wants to talk to me about my views, opinions, the events of 25/06/11 or even my character you can find me in either the Portwell Wine Bar or the Portwell Celler on most fridays, saturdays and sundays.

Nial Prince
Noise-29/6/11

We dont choose to live in the town centre, the rent is cheaper thats all. If you can perhaps pay me the extra it would cost to live in a nice surburban house i will stop complaining. Also ive been in Faringdon for a few years now and the house shaking noise has only began in the last 2 years. But im sure you are correct- i must move.
Name Supplied
Football Club - 29/6/11

Emira
Faringdon Town football club does have an uder-10 team according to their website:
http://www.faringdontownfc.com/youth-teams/
Hope this helps
Name Supplied
Outdoor Music Event at Portwell Angel 25/06/11-29/6/11

If like many other residents of the Market Square, Church Street, London Street and Swan Lane (or anywhere in Faringdon) you were not disturbed by the above event, please visit www.focusonfaringdon.co.uk and say so. Stop and take a look at the Faringdon Festival programme when you’re there.

Anyone who didn’t see the license for the event is welcome to inspect the document @ http://www.focusonuk.co.uk/documents/eventLicense.pdf

Personally, I think the youngsters who performed and those that ran the stage did an excellent job. I cannot help but wonder if the objectors would have been so pernicious had the event been a rendition of “Carmen”. Perhaps we’ll arrange a gig to test the water.

The event obviously caused some unexpected rifts:
One complainant may or may not know that their son was at the gig
One complainant seemed oblivious to the fact that their guests were at the gig
One complainant was unpleasantly abusive to the barman in the Portwell Cellar – who was not responsible in any way for the event. That person did not seek out the perpetrators and speak to them: a shame and an opportunity for harmony lost.
Welcome to Faringdon!
Name Supplied
This is a Community Message from Thames Valley Police. - 29/6/11

HAVE YOUR SAY MEETING
A Have Your Say meeting is being held Sunday 10th July, at Faringdon Market place, between 11:00 and 14:00hrs
Please come along, this is your opportunity to speak with your Neighbourhood Officers to discuss any local issues of concern you may have.
If you are unable to attend but wish to speak with your Neighbourhood Officers, please call 08458 505 505.
Message Ends.
New to Faringdon - 29/6/11

My family and I are moving to Faringdon on the 2nd August and we are keen to become involved in the Community. I have a couple of questions regarding youth activities.

I have a 9 year old son who is keen to join cubs, I have tried the contact details on the Whats on page, however the email address appears to be incorrect, can anyone help?

My son is also an avid footballer and will be moving into the under 10s team this season, I understand there is not a youth football team in Faringdon which is a great shame, are there any other teams that anyone knows of that local boys play in that I could sign him up to?

Many thanks for taking the time to read this

Best wishes
Emira Shepherd
Town Centre Music-29/6/11

Ever considered that some town centre residents might have lived there since before LOUD music events took place?
Name supplied
New Vale of White Horse website- 29/6/11

I went to the part of the site you suggested - there is a list of councilors, dates of up-coming meetings etc but no minutes or other such records. I would expect to be able to see such records and financial plans etc but I really can't find them. If they are there perhaps someone could post a direct links to them??

As an aside I see the group overseeing the Faringdon Leisure Centre is not listed - has it been disbanded? There used to be a commitee with members from the school, the council and Soll Leisure. If this has been disbanded how do the council keep an eye on what is happening there now and how do users such as the school contribute to the running of the centre?
Name Supplied
Re Noise complaint-28/6/11

I can't help but find it ironic that people would choose to live in a TOWN CENTRE and then complain about the noise. Isn't this the thriving hub of the town which we're trying to save by denying Tesco planning permission? Its a bit like buying a house next to an airport and then complaining that the planes make too much noise. I'm starting to think some people just aren't happy unless they have something to moan about.
Emma Riddle
New Vale of White Horse website- 28/6/11

I have just had a look at this. It certainly looks very pretty and is an improvement on the old site on those gorunds. BUT why can't I find council minutes, financial statements etc on the website?
Other councils make this information freely available but as far as I can see the Vale are keeping this well under wraps.

Name Supplied
ED(GW) You need to look under Services and Advice. ( or use search)See http://www.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/services-and-advice/local-democracy
Great planning application search - you can choose to see all the applications for (Great) Faringdon,) See http://www.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/services-and-advice/planning-and-building/find-application/planning-application-register
For a particular house use the My area search from Home page
Re Noise complainants-28/6/11

To All the people who have complained about sat nights gig M.A.D.d. in the yard. PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT before making yourselves look foolish.
Sam Prince
Re Noise complainants-28/6/11

Actually, mr/ms name supplied.I. Hilary Janet Prince-Braunton and personal licence holder applied for and was granted a licence until 11.30 on Saturday night.
We did not exceed the licence and we had no problems with our audience's behaviour. I am terribly sorry if 11.15 is a little late for you but our age-range of early teens to pensioners enjoyed themselves.
The Portwell Angel did not break any licencing rules.
Look forward to seeing you at the Faringdon Festival (8th to 10th July)
Corn Exchange Sound Proofing-28/6/11

Steve Wright raises a brilliant question regarding the sound proofing of the Corn Exchange. Has the £16,000 that FTC spent on sound proofing worked? Do we now have a beautiful old venue in the heart of town we can be proud of for gigs, wedding receptions, parties, discos? As well as the cake stalls, craft events and art shows etc...
P.I.John
Outdoor Music Events-28/6/11

Do people really take an active stance against live music in the town? Not at all. There are however people who quite reasonably take a stance against the kind of loud and intrusive music which insinuates itself into their homes whether they want it or not. It is of course quite right to say that such music is composed and learned, and may well be enjoyable to a number of afficionados, but as such it isn’t necessarily or enjoyable for all. Just like a weed is a plant in an inappropriate place, music is ‘noise’ when it isn’t appreciated. The difference between that sort of creative activity and that of, say an art society, or a writing group, is that the two latter do not oblige those who aren't interested in it, to take part, or to see, or hear it.

My guess is that there are quite a few residents who live close to the town centre venues and who thoroughly dislike insistent, relentless, loud modern music from which there is no escape, but who wouldn't dream of officially complaining as it is a futile and demoralising process. As for talking to the organisers – I think it’s been tried before, and the organisers’ attitudes have ranged from indifferent to bordering on bullying.

Clearly, Nial, you don't practise what you preach. Live and let live implies that you are willing to allow folks who do not share your interests to lead undisturbed lives. Your attitude, self centred and inconsiderate as it is, only serves to undermine your own argument. Oh, yes, and just who are these "wastrels who could have been somebody"?
You write of hate and ignorance. I suggest you look in the mirror.

Name Supplied
Re Noise complainants-28/6/11

In response to Bah Humbug, no I don't quite get it. I don't understand why your first port of call would be a formal complaint to the Vale council in Abingdon. I don't understand why you don't just go and speak to the people concerned, if you live opposite the Portwell Angel then these people are your neighbours; I presume you know them, meet them in the street, say hello? Go and chat to them or phone them up if you think face to face is too confrontational. Possibly even a private email rather than a public message?

I don't understand why you think "people should be able to make what ever 'noise' they wish" or be inconsiderate of others. I suggested that a live music community event on a Friday night in a town centre is perfectly reasonable, not a nuisance and should not be grounds for a formal complaint being the first port of call.

The event was advertised on this very website in advance, in Focus on Faringdon and on posters in the Portwell Angel, you obviously read this site and I presume you might walk past the Portwell from your own house. Contacting the Vale to tell them to remove local venue licenses sounds exactly like a threat to me. Not every event in our town is going to be to everyone's taste but that is no reason to try and shut them down one by one. > >

What is the point of living in a town centre with no community spirit?
P.I. John
Council launches new look website- 28/6/11

Vale of White Horse District Council has just launched a new look website www.whitehorsedc.gov.uk this month, to help customers access online services and information quickly and easily at the touch of a button. The council’s new website is the culmination of a six month project to enhance the site’s look, navigation and overall user experience.

As well as including all the best features from the old site, the new site has a fresh looking, much less cluttered homepage, with a brand new navigation structure to help customers reach the service or information they are looking for. The site also includes an improved access to view planning applications.

The project has significantly improved the accessibility of the site, including new features such as Browsealoud, which allows people to listen to website content rather than read it.

From the outset of the project, the council was keen to go with an open source content management system to keep costs as low as possible. This means that the council is not tied into a particular supplier or subject to any expensive system licensing costs.

Matthew Barber, Council Leader, said: “We hope our customers will feel the benefit of our new site, which should make it much easier for them to access our services round the clock at their own convenience.”
Re Noise complainants-27/6/11

All this brings us back to the thorny old question of music at The Corn Exchange. The council has refurbished the Corn Exchange very well but has installed some double glazing which, a) does not cover all windows and b) doesn't seal the ones that are covered. Therefore, sound insulation is no different to before. So, do we have a usable music venue or not - and if not, why was council money spent on the alleged "noise reduction"?
Steve Wright
Hate and loathing-27/6/11.

Nial, You refer to hate and ignorance and say also that you have spent years loathing a majority of people in this town.
That is an insult and not music to the ears!
Mike Bell
Re Noise complainants-27/6/11.

re Noise complainants PIJohn, you don't get the concept do you?, if people were sitting comfortably on their sofas, they would not need to write a complaint to the council. A few points in response ro your comments. So glad humans are so diverse and as such have a varied taste in music, and the law. I think people should be able to make what ever 'noise' they wish, that they need not consider the wishes of others, should be able to ignore the licenses granted and do exactly as they want. Equally, I believe that all honest people SHOULD contact the authorities when an individual or organisation has flaunted the law. That is correct thing to do. People who hear unwanted music for an hour or two may think it a tad boring, try listening to the same stuff all evening, knowing it will happen again next week.
I don't think that one person alone talking to active establishment operating past its licensed hours late in the evening is a very pleasant experience, as it could lead to confrontation.
So please contact the council and tell them to enforce the law or remove the licences. It is all about choice and freedom. NOT threats.
Bah Humbug.
Noise complainants-27/6/11.

All Faringdon residents should consider very carefully before lodging online noise complaints to Abingdon from the comfort of their sofa. Our small town tries very hard to host events which are musical, theatrical, community based and some work better than others. However, not all of these are to everyone's taste; just because you do not like one particular event or can hear others creating noise are not strong grounds for jumping straight in to making a formal complaint. However, complaints from a few individuals seem to have the power to close down widely loved venues and events. What is the point of living in the centre of a town with no community spirit? It is not as if Faringdon used to be a silent, sleepy backwater and has suddenly become a hive of vibrant activity, some may say the complete opposite...

I live in the town centre and frequently overhear music, traffic, outdoor events and neighbours but this is all part and parcel of living in a bustling little higgledy piggledy old town. I do not consider live music or outdoor events on a weekend evening to be unreasonable, disturbing or a nuisance, even if I do not like the musical style or the participants.

If noise is disturbing, frequent and unreasonable then why not speak with the event organiser or those responsible for the venue. I am sure most of them will be reasonable and sympathetic as they are generally local business people with an interest in serving their customers and community. Filling in online forms without community engagement engenders little sympathy from those neighbours who find themselves with no venue to hold a party, gig, fundraiser, wedding reception or community event.
P.I.John
Re Outdoor Music Event at Portwell Angel 25/06/11- 26/6/11

I don't usually pay attention to the Faringdon website (it bores me to be honest) but a friend of mine pointed me towards an article concerning an event that I feel like weighing in.

The event at the Portwell angel (25/6/11) was a roaring success. It showed that there are people in Faringdon who will support live music of all kinds and for once I was proud to be a part of this town. The comment that someone (not even brave enough to post their own name) made about the event reminded me why I have spent years loathing a majority of people in this town.

The people I refer to are the ones who do not go to an event, but sit at home concocting a reason to complain about the "noise" that has disrupted a very small portion of their daily lives. It saddens me immensly to see this attitude. It depresses me even further to think that this is a common view in Faringdon.

To refer to music as "noise" is a huge insult. People have written and learned this "noise". There are people who love music and dedicate their lives to it. There are people who go out of their way to come and support live music. Their are people who arrive at a venue, be it pub, club, street corner or even an old back yard, without knowing that a show will comence and stay there all night. These are the kinds of people I love and wish to see more of in Faringdon

Unfortunatly there are people who take an active stance against live music in Faringdon. People who make it their business to destroy the enjoyment of others and who wish to see an end to live music in this town. To these people i say "Live and let live". Do not take it upon yourselves to comment on what people do in Faringdon. A town is about its people. The good and the bad. The ugly and beautiful. The people who succeed and the wastrels who could've been somebody. Let the people live.

Do not buldoze this town with the power of hate and ignorance.

Let this town breathe.

Nial Prince
(resident and supporter of live shows)
Outdoor Music Event at Portwell Angel 25/06/11- 26/6/11

If like many other residents of the Market Square, Church Street, London Street and Swan Lane area you were disturbed by the above event, please lodge a "Noise Nuisance" report at http://www.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/ccm/support/formcall.jsp?F=REPORTIT&P=SOVA_TAG=VALE

Did anyone receive or see a licence variance notice for these premises? There were certainly none sent out to surrounding residences that I know of, which should have been applicable in this case.

Apparently the licence has been granted until 23:30 for a number of weekends in the coming months. If they go past the 23:30 then lodge another complaint about exceeding time limits and licence conditions.
Name Supplied
"Voice" concert - 26/6/11

Thanks to "Bystander" for your appreciative comments. Julia Burn & I are delighted that so many people enjoyed the concert and we will try to do something along similar lines again. We were able to send a profit of £130 to Christian Aid which made the financial side worthwhile. The artists also said that they enjoyed playing in Faringdon - great to get out of London to an appreciative audience!

Our thanks also go to Father Leslie Adams at The Blessed Hugh for letting us use his church for our event.

If you would like to go on our mailing list for future promotions, please let me have your email address at steviewright@tiscali.co.uk
Steve Wright
Sponsored cycle ride Lands End to John O'Groats - 26/6/11

Dates 10th - 24th July 2011
I am making this trip because I enjoy a challenge and it is a tough one particularly since I only started cycling about a year ago. More importantly though I am doing it to raise funds for the RNLI. When living in mid Wales I was an active member of the Aberdyfi Rowing Club. Whenever we were out rowing in Cardigan Bay or even across the Irish Sea it was comforting to know that if we got into trouble the local lifeboat crew would be around to get us out of it.

Even though this service is largely provided by volunteers it costs over £300,000 a day to run. Each year they save the lives of more than 300 people and in addition last year the lifeguards patrolling beaches assisted over 18000 others. Both myself and the RNLI would be very grateful for any support you are able to give.

Donations may be made on line by going to www.justgiving.com/nigel-scott7 and following instructions.
It is very simple.
Many thanks for your support
Nigel Scott
Careful shopper?- 26/6/11

Just bought a pack of McVities Chocolate Digestives for £2.37? Not a very careful shopper then.
Name Supplied
Budgens' Tuna price - 24/6/11

Budgens do seem very expensive - just bought a pack of McVities Chocolate Digestives for £2.37, just looked at the price Waitrose are charging which is £1.54 or 2 packs for £2 - this speaks for itself!
Careful Shopper
Thursday Bus to Burford - 23/6/11

Took the bus to Burford today- great trip through Clanfield, Black Bourton, Carterton, Shilton. It only took 40 minutes.
The timetable is on http://www.rhbuses.com/113fulbrookfaringdon.htm Look out for the Sch and N/Sch columns. Sch= during term time, and N/Sch = school holidays including half term.
I guess these are set to coincide with school hols around Burford.
Gene Webb
Blackbird spotting at the Folly - 21/6/11

Just like to say a big well done to all involved with the 24 ( 22 + 2) Blackbirds , and all the improvements around the folly.
Had a good 1/2 hour bird spotting the other day.
Jo and Andy Boston
"Voice" concert - 19/6/11

What a marvellous concert last evening from "Voice". Their new item, The Ziggurat Builders, written for them by Marcus Davidson was truly exciting and it was a privilege to hear this initial performance in Faringdon.

Bystander
Budgens' Tuna price? - 18/6/11

These past few days I noticed Budgen's lowest regular priced can of Tuna £1.79 compared to Sainsbury's lowest regular price can of Tuna .59p.
Kimmo Kaarlela
Re Handbrake Hill - 18/6/11

You should not rely on just your handbrake when parking on a hill.
Bring the car to a stop. Put your handbrake on keeping your foot on the foot brake. Put car into neutral and gently remove your foot from the foot brake, keeping your hand on the hand brake.
If the car is stationary depress the clutch and put the car in to either a forward gear if you have driven into the space or reverse if you have reversed into a space.
If you are parking along side a curb make sure you turn you wheels into the curb, as well as the above .This will prevent the car rolling too.
Do Not Forget - When returning to your car put your foot on the foot brake gear into neutral then start your car.
This is in the Highway Code and as recommended by RoSPA Advanced Drivers & Riders
Name supplied
Voice perform again -18th June - Catholic Church - 18/6/11

Ttickets at £10 (£8 concessions) are now available from the Faringdon Tourist Information Centre and from The Nut Tree in the Market Place.

The young a cappella trio, “Voice” return to Faringdon . The programme will include a new work composed by Marcus Davidson entitled “The Ziggurat Builders”. This is a collaboration between Voice, Khyam Allami, a successful young ’Ud player, and cellist Tara Franks.
“The Ziggurat Builders” is an English translation of a poem by the Iraqi Assyrian poet Sargon Boulus.
The music draws on the unique sounds of Voice and Khyam Allami and brings together performing traditions from east and west. This composition is the first time that the combination of three voices, cello and ‘Ud has been explored.

Voice have performed to great acclaim in Faringdon previously, singing in All Saints Church as part of the 2007 Faringdon Arts Festival and, in February this year for their Festival of Candlemas programme, again at All Saints. Their music spans a diverse range from the medieval chant of Hildegard of Bingen, through to European and American folk, and up to twenty-first century compositions. Khyam Allami is an exciting new artist who has performed in Europe, the Middle East and the UK including WOMAD and the BBC Proms in 2010.
This is a great opportunity for us to hear him in Faringdon. Information on Khyam’s work is at: http://www.khyamallami.com/site/
To see and hear more about Voice, visit their website, http://www.voicetrio.co.uk
Further information from: Julia Burn email: julia@theburns.name and Steve Wright email: steviewright@tiscali.co.uk
Faringdon Festival Programme in July - 18/6/11

You can see details of the programme on nvwhatson.htm
Recycle on the go in the Vale! - 18/6/11

New on-street recycling bins are being installed in town centres in the Vale to help people recycle on the go.
The new bins, which will enable people to recycle cans, paper, plastic and glass items, have been installed in Faringdon this week and will be coming to Abingdon and Wantage later this summer.
The bins each have three compartments – two for recycling and one for litter – and aim to make it as easy as possible for people to recycle while out and about.

They have been funded by the Vale of White Horse District Council and Oxfordshire Waste Partnership.

The council’s waste contractors Verdant have been working with each town council to decide the best locations for the new bins. Once installed, Verdant will be responsible for emptying the bins as part of their street cleaning programme.

Cllr Reg Waite, Cabinet Member for waste services, said: “Residents in the Vale are already going to huge efforts to recycle so much of their waste at home as the district’s excellent recycling rate shows. We also want to make it as easy as possible for people to recycle while they are out and about in our town centres. I’m sure these bins will prove popular and will help further reduce the amount of rubbish the district sends to landfill.”

Since the start of the year the district council has also been encouraging people holding voluntary litter picks to separate the litter they collect so as much as possible is recycled. So far 383 bags of rubbish have been collected by litter pickers including 179 bags that can be recycled.
People are being urged to use the new recycling bins carefully and to put their rubbish or recycling in the right compartment.

Recycling and education officers from Verdant will be holding an event at Faringdon Community College on Tuesday 21 June – during national recycle week - to help promote the town’s new recycling bins.
The recycling roadshow at the college will feature an inflatable goal donated by the Every Can Counts campaign, which aims to enable and encourage more people to recycle the drinks cans they use outside the home.
Students will be challenged to kick a football through a can to win recycling goodies. There will also be a competition to guess the number of cans in a bale of crushed cans to win music vouchers.
Faringdon Radio - 18/6/11

The new 'Faringdon Local' from Faringdon Radio is now out (for some reason it does take a while to download - but it is there).
This show features an interview with Pete Rowe from Dacoit Studios and more information about the forthcoming Faringdon Festival.
Music from bands that will be playing at the Festival : The Dacoits, Mammoth and the Drum and Adam Lipinski.
www.faringdonradio.com
Thank you Sean
Thames Valley Police message - 18/6/11

Police would like to update you with information about a recent series of crimes where two females have been targeting shops and businesses.
Two females have been distracting staff at businesses and shops locally by confusing the staff with money and change - the females were in Shrivenham today Thursday 16th June at about 2.30 pm and drove away in a blue Audi A4 part index S931
They were also in Wantage and Childrey on the afternoon of Tuesday 14th June at around 2.30 to 3pm. They are described as two females with very tanned skin, both are of large build and spoke english with strong accents, they both wore long multi coloured skirts and one wore a headscarf.
One of the females had several gold teeth. If you have any information about this message please phone the police on 08458 505 505 and quote URN 803 of the 16th June .
However if you suspect a crime is in progress always phone 999.
Tesco Appeal notes from Town Council - 18/6/11

In relation to the TESCO appeal against refusal by the District Council for planning permission to building a store on Park Road, Town Council is being asked from time to time what actually happened at the Public Inquiry held in Faringdon at the beginning of June.
The following link to the town council website which will enable access to some notes which have been drawn up by Cllr Alan Hickmore who had attended the Public Hearing on behalf of the Town Council.
http://www.faringdontowncouncil.gov.uk/index.php?section=73
Dance Workshops in August from Cre8ive Steps - 16/6/11

Summer Holiday Dance Workshops
Tues 9th Aug 1.30-2.30 Dance Mania (ages 4-6)
3-5 Street Dance (ages 7-11)

Wed 10th Aug 1.30-3.30 Freestyle Dance (ages 7-11)
3.45-5.45 Street Dance (12+)

Thurs 11th Aug 1.30-3.30 Musical Theatre (ages 7-11)

Thurs 25th Aug 1.30-2.30 Dance Mania (ages 4-6)
3-5 Choreography Workshop (ages 7+)

Tues 30th Aug 1.30-3.30 Street Dance (ages 7-11)

All workshops are held at Faringdon Leisure Centre Dance Mania £5 All other workshops £10
Handbrake Hill - 15/6/11

Yet another car rolls down the hill at the Market Place, this time nearly taking out the porch at the Old Crown. Will they erect a prominent sign warning drivers they are parking on an incline and really need to use their handbrakes?
I suggest renaming it Handbrake Hill to make the point.
B.Rake
Re Postal service in Faringdon - 14/6/11

Possibly the routes taken by the Posties may have changed? London St deliveries now before 10 am rather than 1-2 pm as it has been for the past few years.... some winners, some losers I guess!
Name supplied
Eddie Williams and Faringdon Folly on Radio Oxford - 13/5/11

Listen again to yesterdays programme. Scroll forward to about 1 hour 40 mins if you don't want to listen to it all
http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/programmes/schedules/2011/06/13

Gene Webb
Dogs and leads - 12/6/11

Perhaps the Americans should worry about reducing gun related crime rather than ensuring that their dogs are walked on a leash!!
Name Supplied
Dogs and leads - 12/6/11

I have recently noticed an increase in the number of dogs being walked by their owners on public paths and estates without being on a lead. I find this completely unacceptable and as a dog owner myself I cannot understand their irresponsible choice!
Their are plenty of safe areas that you can let your dogs off to run.
In the united states it is an offence to walk your dogs without a lead and I think it should be the same here
Name Supplied
Wallet found. - 11/6/11

Wallet found near the Swan pub, Faringdon on Friday night, contains ID. Will hand to the Police Station on Monday if not claimed before.. Tel.07943 257611
Name supplied
Fun Run 3rd July cancelled - 11/6/11

Regretably it has been necessary to postpone the Fun Run that was scheduled for Sunday 3rd July. The new date will be announced in due course.
If you are aware of friends neighbours, family etc intending to participate we would much apppreciate your making them aware of this postponement.
Faringdon & District Rotary Club
Watch found at Rats Castle - 11/6/11

During refurbishment of the Rats Castle the new owners found a watch inscribed on the back to Alfred Robinshaw.
We would like to return to the owner please can someone respond to Faringdon.org to claim it.
Rats Castle Team
PS opening very soon!!!
ED(GW) Email enquiries@faringdon-online.co.uk and I'll forward it to the new owners
Postal service in Faringdon - 11/6/11

Has anybody noticed that in the last few days the Postal Delivery service has got worse? Used to get the post by about 0930 until a few weeks ago. Now its after 1100 and sometimes as late as 1330!
What has happened? Have we got less people doing the job, a culture change or is it just poor management.
Colin
Faringdon Radio - 11/6/11

The current episode of 'Faringdon Local' is now available to download from Faringdon radio. In this episode there is:
* Interview with Mariana Raho the director of 'The Odd Couple' for Faringdon Drama Society
* Interview with Julia Burn - talking about 'Voice' and their forthcoming concert in town (Sat 18th June)

Music from:
* The Man with the Stereo Hands
* SoulSmith
* Voice
www.faringdonradio.com
Sean Hodgson
Cranfield Appeal - 11/6/11

Cranfield have appealed against the refusal of planning permission for 3 houses on the Sudbury House land.

Reasons:
Houses prominent in elevated location
Entrance through stone wall- important, prominent heritage- harms character of area, would not preserve or enhance the conservation area.
Contrary to VWHDC policy: H10,HE1, DC1, PPS5

In grounds of Grade II listed building and access through curtilage listed stone wall, will not preserve setting of the listed building
Contrary to Local Plan policies HE4 and HE5 and PS5
Tesco Appeal - 10/6/11

Thankyou for clear concise notes of the proceedings - most interesting for those of us not in a position to attend

Bystander
Oxfordshire County Council Transport Plan extract - 10/6/11

Local transport plan Summary document p48/49
Faringdon is a market town in the Vale of White Horse with a population of approximately 6,000. It is situated 19 miles southwest of Oxford and 13 miles northeast of Swindon. The A420 (which is mainly single carriageway with limited stretches of dual carriageway) is situated to the south and east of Faringdon and provides good links to other towns.

The road network in the town centre is narrow and can easily become congested with on-street parking and/or the presence of large vehicles.

There are poor footways and cycling connections linking the residential areas of the town to key facilities and amenities. There are a number of footways that narrow and would benefit from light repair. The Regional Cycle Route 40 runs through the south of the town but is not well publicised. Strategy
Traffic management - consider traffic calming measures to reduce speeds; investigate improvements to Park Road roundabout; review the signage within Cornmarket to aid movement for all modes. Public transport - improve manoeuvrability for buses in the town centre; work with bus operators to improve the existing Swindon-Oxford bus services and services to other surrounding areas.

Cycling and Walking - improve wayfinding by creating formal walking routes to key facilities; develop a high quality cycle network; publicise and promote walking and cycling routes (e.g. Regional Cycle Route 40); improve connections to the rights of way network.
Sequential Test- 10/6/11

The Sequential Test is explained in the guidance document in paragraph 2.44. It is important to Faringdon as it clearly highlights the difference in planning terms between Gloucester Street and Park Road sites;
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/147399.pdf

Apply the Sequential Approach to Site Selection
2.44 A sequential approach should be applied in selecting appropriate sites for allocation within the centres where identified need is to be met. All options in the centre (including, where necessary, the extension of the centre) should be thoroughly assessed before less central sites are considered for development for main town centre uses.

The sequential approach requires that locations are considered in the following order:

* first, locations in appropriate existing centres where suitable sites or buildings for conversion are, or are likely to become, available within the development plan document period, taking account of an appropriate scale of development in relation to the role and function of the centre; and then
* edge-of-centre locations, with preference given to sites that are or will be well-connected to the centre; and then
* out-of-centre sites, with preference given to sites which are or will be well served by a choice of means of transport and which are close to the centre and have a high likelihood of forming links with the centre.

http://i26.servimg.com/u/f26/16/16/49/11/superm10.jpg
PI John
Tesco Appeal Notes- 10/6/11

Thanks Gene, nice summary. What did you learn that you didn’t already know? Did anything new or exciting happen? All I can see is the same old arguments that while Waitrose is closer to the town centre it will increase local traffic and has poor access. While Tesco is sequentially further from the centre, close to the A420 but will not attract shoppers into Faringdon centre.
PI John
ED(GW) I learned that:
The woodland to be destroyed is not scrub/self seeded
VWHDC appear to have done a sequential assessment alongside the Waitrose application - not as an objective assessment. Their consultation leaflet was viewed as 'partial'
The absence of an uptodate Local Development Plan/Core Strategy is key(I think)
Park Road site is 2-3 minutes walk further away
VWHDC Conservatives have free parking in Market Towns in their manifesto
VWHDC have changed the use of land from industrial to housing(Bloor), but say it is not possible to change from industrial to retail
The sequential test is about proximity, but also suitability
No one can quantify the benefits to retail in the town centre of a nearby supermarket- variable shopping habits, attractiveness of shops, as well as distance.

Waitrose are amending their plans
The planning legislation is imprecise- there is much room for judgement
Can't predict outcome
Tesco Appeal Notes- 10/6/11

Here are my notes of the meeting - I attended most of it, but sadly not the Traffic/Access road bit.

Waitrose are submitting amended plans - see http://planning.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=LFVVQQBY0G300
Ref: 11/00146/FUL
The deadline for comments is 22/6/11

I understand the results of the Tesco appeal will be posted on the Planning Inspectorate website( ref: 2143419 )
http://www.pcs.planningportal.gov.uk/pcsportal/CaseSearchResults.asp

Gene Webb
Tesco Appeal - 9/6/11

Now that the Tesco 'public' enquiry has finished could any of the few people who gave up so much of their own time to attend, give the many a clue as to what happened? Ideally a link to an independent write up or an executive summary would be great. If not; rumour, opinion and personal interpretation will suffice...
PI John
Bus to Burford- use it or lose it?? - 9/6/11

Yesterday my wife and I went to Burford on the newly launched RH 113 bus service. Leaving at 9.50 it gave us a few hours in Buford before catching the bus back at 1408.Its a lovely journey and takes in Carterton on the way so you could,if you wish,travel just to there and enjoy a thrumming looking market day.The bus had very few takers and it occurred to us Faringdon might lose the service because too few people know about it.
Such a pity that would be...
Bill Rennells
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Library Staffing - 7/6/11

Now, now, name supplied, that just isn’t fair. People who write press releases for local authorities, and indeed all ‘official’ bodies, go on very expensive courses to learn how to write. These course are funded by us, the taxpayers. The people concerned learn very significant usages of English language, and specifically how to use language to deceive, rather than to inform. (Although it isn’t expressed as such) Thus the word ‘significant’ is used to denote something that sounds good, even though we aren’t told exactly what that ‘good’ may be. None the less, ‘significant’ sounds as though it is going to be rather positive, instead of ‘reduced’ which may be more informative, but which could be interpreted as negative, and no-one wants the electorate to perceive the plans as negative, now, do they? A stronger example is the phrase ‘collateral damage’. In old money, ‘dead civilians’.

All this weasel wording has come about as a result of the clamour for public consultation and participation. In order to get us, the saps who pay the pipers, to agree to all sorts of spending or non spending that we wouldn’t otherwise condone, those in power have to work harder and harder to persuade us that negative is positive. All these very costly surveys and consultations are carefully worded to steer us to acceptance of otherwise unpalatable decisions. Why bother? The end result wouldn’t be different. Personally I’d prefer honesty, at least then we’d know what we were getting, and the money saved could go towards something we actually need. That really could be described as significant.

Another name supplied.
Sponsored bike ride - 7/6/11

Anyone interested in sponsoring Neil Gerring's 75mile bike ride in aid of the Anthony Nolan Trust can do so and find full details at www.anthonynolanevents.org.uk//neilgerring

Email: mgerring@btinternet.com
Thankyou
Missing Cat - 7/6/11

If anyone is missing a Birman cat in the Berner's Way / Tuckers Road area, I believe a cat was attacked by a Rottweiler late Friday night.
The cat was later seen to be removed by a man who placed it in the boot of a car.
Name Supplied
Library Staffing - 6/6/11

I have just looked at the press release - and I see some very ambiguous wording. So what does the phrase 'significant levels of staffing' actually mean? Is the staffing of Faringdon Library to be reduced, is it to be increased, or is it to maintained at the present level? I daresay we can all have a guess. Perhaps the present staffing is not significant enough, or perhaps it is more significant than necessary, who knows?

I wonder who writes this crap. Personally I think that it is about time that those at county hall employed a press release writer with a significant knowledge of English usage. Perhaps the writer should have made more use of their library, while he/she still had the chance.

Name supplied
Tesco Appeal - 5/6/11

Perhaps the strength of feeling in the town is not so great as you imagine. People love to have their say, and can do so quite vociferously without leaving their armchairs on an internet forum such as this, but the truth is that strong feelings are short lived and as people get used to an idea, their preoccupations turn to something else. Who can blame them? The notion that transient individual opinion - varied, biased and fickle as it often is - could (or should) seriously influence decisions that have long term consequenses is a nonsense.

As for seeing a version of the proceedings on this page, it will be very interesting, but would it be possible to have factual reporting rather than opinion or interpretation please?

Bystander
Tesco Appeal - 5/6/11

I am trying very hard to be there but I run two businesses and have other calls on my time (so I'm not a stay at home mother, retired or unemployed). I completely understand Gene's point of view. Because of what is being discussed and the way it is being discussed there is no way of expressing to anyone who is not there what is going on in a precis'd version.

I will put a point of view forward (mine only) after the appeal.

There are two days left - next Tuesday and Wednesday starting at 9.30, the Town Council fought very hard to ensure that this appeal was heard in Faringdon rather than Abingdon where the District Council wanted it held. Personally, I have found it very disappointing, given the strength of feeling in the town, that so few people have turned up, especially as I know that two of the most vociferous were available to do so.

And no, Gene is not subject to any gagging order, it is just very difficult to explain what is going on unless you see/hear it for yourself.
Jane Boulton
Library Plans and Consultation - 5/6/11

Extract from press release
'In addition the county council would like to provide significant levels of staffing to a further five libraries - with a small element of volunteering planned. These libraries are Chinnor, Faringdon, Grove, Wheatley and Woodstock.'

See the full press release on http://www.faringdon.org/nvpressrelease.htm
See http://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/libraryserviceconsultation
Face painting artiist- no show - 5/6/11

After going to all that trouble to find an artist who charged a reasonable fee, No Show!! Didnt even bother to ring, text or email the reason why she didnt turn up.
Shant be recommending a certain lady from Carterton I am afraid.
Colin
Thank you - 5/6/11

thank you to the kind person who left my daughter’s coat on a gatepost on the footpath between Nursery View and Folly Park. It took me a week to find the coat, but find it I did!
Rebecca
Folly Watch - 4/5/11

Regular walkers round the Folly woodland will have noticed that a good deal of work has taken place - information boards, seating, willow sculpture, planting.

I'd like to ask anyone who walks there to be the ' eyes and ears' for Friends of the Folly.
If you see anything that shouldn't be, please call 01367 242222 or email follywatch@faringdonfolly.org.uk

Thanks so much
The more people who keep an eye, the better the Folly will be for everyone
Gene Webb
Tesco Appeal - 4/6/11

It would seem that ED(GW) is unsure about being able to comment on the Sudbury House Hearing.
Many of us rely on her interpretation of the comments made.
Could it be that she is subject to a gagging order ?
Name supplied

ED(GW)- not gagged- just being cautious- it's a very formal meeting- barristers/witnesses/cross examination- I don't know the proper protocol!
Tesco Appeal - 3/6/11

I read here, on 20/5/11, about councillors from Faringdon being on the new VWHDC cabinet. This has got me thinking:
If Faringdon Town Council has previously expressed (to VWHDC) approval or disapproval of planning applications from Tesco and/or Waitrose, and if the district council has, previously, agreed or disagreed with the view of the town council, what could this change in the VWHDC cabinet mean for the outcome of the respective planning applications from the two supermarkets?

Also, VWHDC was due to consider the Waitrose application on 25 May but this was postponed due to the new cabinet needing to get 'up to speed' (see talking points 18/05/11). The Tesco appeal meeting (just a week or so later) has not been postponed. Is there any significance to this - beyond the, perhaps reasonable, approach of dealing with the Tesco Appeal before considering another application?

And then I read here (01/06/11) that: 'The Tesco appeal seems to be directly linked to the Waitrose application as far as I can make out and there will be some discussion of the Waitrose site in terms of the 'sequential' planning criteria.' What does that mean?

Just wondered. Has anyone any more information or opinions?
Name Supplied

ED(GW) I've been at the Tesco appeal meeting for most of the time- but am unsure whether I'm allowed to report anything while it is happening. However you can find out what the sequential test is about by looking at http://www.nrpf.org/PDF/nrpftopic08_sequential.pdf
This is a Community Message from Thames Valley Police. - 3/6/11

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Tesco Appeal - 3/6/11

The appeal resumes on Tuesday at 09.30
Gene Webb
Tesco Appeal - 3/6/11

I do appreciate the difficulties that some folk will have in making the meeting but the President indicated that she welcomes the written views of local people and will read them out at some point in procedures - I would imagine that you could deliver your contributions to one of the town councillors or directly to staff at Sudbury House for passing to the President.
Name supplied
Supermarket P.I.John - 3/6/11

I, like many others in Faringdon, do my major shopping once a month in (in my case) Swindon. I still use Pat Thomas, Rob the Cheese, Lilians (Stafford bakery) and many other shops in the town. No supermarket will give the quality of goods and service that our small retailers provide. If anyone thinks they get (for instance) good quality meat from a supermarket, they are living in another universe.I will use the new supermarket, whichever one it is, to buy the cheap and cheerful commodities, but will still use the better quality shops for better quality goods, as I do now.

A new supermarket has a chance of giving our quality retailers a greater share of the retail market.

I talked to a senior manager of Sainsbury's a few years ago and his comment was "I wouldn't buy any meat from a chain supermarket, I'd go for a proper butcher every time".
JaneBoulton
Re: P.I.John - 2/6/11

The 'unemployed, stay at home parents ... the retired and people who want to take holiday' may not be representative of society as a whole, but are those that shop in Faringdon during weekdays and could therefore be considered 'the majority'.
Sheila
This is a Community Message from Thames Valley Police. - 2/6/11

NEIGHBOURHOOD AND HOME WATCH WEEK - 18TH to 26TH JUNE 2011

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Faringdon Supermarkets - 2/6/11

Whatever the outcome of the Waitrose and Tesco appeals in Faringdon, its good to hear that Carterton is hoping to get a Morrisons to join the Co-op there. Both stores right in the town centre, loads of free parking and both next to all the other shops, cafes etc.
I was there this morning, a small town centre alive and thriving. No out of town centre shops for them.
Name Supplied
Tesco Appeal - 2/6/11

The Tesco appeal is linked to the Waitrose application (A) but there needs to be little protracted discussion in terms of the sequential planning criteria.
See http://i26.servimg.com/u/f26/16/16/49/11/superm10.jpg
The Tesco site (C) is over twice the distance from our town centre (B) and if any out of centre supermarket is built it will irreversibly harm our 800 year old town, shops, buildings, vibrancy and vitality.
P.I.John
Tesco Appeal - 2/6/11

It strikes me that holding a 'public' informal chat during working hours only does not mean "everyone is welcome to speak" or that there is "no problem dipping in and out to hear the goings on". What it means is that only the views of the unemployed, stay at home parents who choose to take their children to a meeting, the retired and people who want to take holiday so that they can go will be heard.

This is not a cross section of Faringdon but a sector of society not representative of the whole.
P.I.John
ED(GW) Had not FTC worked very hard to change the location it would have been held in Abingdon. It is to last 6 days
Dog spotted - 1/6/11

Whilst walking on wicklesham farm, I saw a young looking, medium jack russel terrier type dog, white with brown patches near Charney Kennels. It seemed very timid and had a tail docked to the virtually nothing.
It ran towards the hunt kennels before I lost sight of it.
Hope he/she found itsway home !
Cheryl
Tesco Appeal - 1/6/11

I would like to reassure anyone who wishes to attend the public hearing at Sudbury House that you will find it to be an informal session - there is no problem dipping in and out to hear the goings on!!
I'm sure there will be more to follow on this subject but the hearing will last 6 days and everyone is welcome to speak providing they register their interest with the president who is very approachable.
The Tesco appeal seems to be directly linked to the Waitrose application as far as I can make out and there will be some discussion of the Waitrose site in terms of the 'sequential' planning criteria.
Name supplied
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